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Elsa's avatar

I have seen this as yet another spoke in the many weapons against us, notably the way that good movements (feminism, civil rights, gay rights, etc) have been turned in destructive ones - against us. So much connecting the dots is needed - as you are doing.

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alaskachick's avatar

Those movements didn't turn destructive, they were engineered to be destructive from the start. CIA funded them.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

Quite so and the Brits (The Crown, City of London, House of Lords et al) are behind so much of this skulduggery which they keep well hidden through fronts like the CIA. Yet another enormous rabbit hole to explore: A long read: https://declassifieduk.org/cia-sidekick-gives-2-6m-to-uk-media-groups/

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charles's avatar

Yep! Gloria Steinem and MS magazine had more connections to the CIA than Bill Buckley and National Review -- even though they were supposedly ideological enemies.

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Elsa's avatar

I disagree. Civil rights - racial equality - that's great, not destructive. Equal rights for women - including the vote - that's great. Ending the massive discrimination against gays and lesbians - that's great. Taking care of the environment - that's also great. Over and over, I see good movements turned destructive. There may well have been infiltration from the start. There were also amazing people who cared about fairness and justice. You are leaving out the massive contributions to our world by amazing people.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

IMHO discrimination of any kind is rooted in the need for some people (members of the WEF, UN et al) to impose their agenda on others. Everyone should be free to pursue their lives in any way they chose short of harming another. To peacefully practice your own mission is the only 'right' you need. The following says it all for me and I have yet to see it fail: https://www.desiderata.com/desiderata.html

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Elsa's avatar

You don't address: how were we to get this rights? That's where the movements come in. United we are much stronger. Go tell your message to Harrier Tubman! Stop that silly underground railroad, just peacefully practice your own mission. Tell it to Abraham Lincoln!!

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

Our right is a natural one but this has been confused by those wishing to control us like slavery. If the truth be known, we are all slaves to the corrupted capitalist system having been manacled for millennia and taught to love our slavery. The owners are the rentiers, formerly the landed aristocracy. But this is a massive subject. Some are unaware of the extent of land held in title by Queen Elizabeth II. https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/is-queen-elizabeth-ii-worlds-biggest-landowner.html/

If I am interrupted in my peaceful exercise of living and oppressed, then yes of course I will resist. Old 'Abe' had his agenda too. Nobody is all lilly white - we have our failings but hopefully forgive others as we ourselves are forgiven. Wars are born out of the desire to dictate to others.

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alaskachick's avatar

Of course there was some good that came of these movements, but I believe those movements were ultimately destructive to our society and the family unit.

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Elsa's avatar

I appreciate being able to get work I would otherwise have almost certainly not gotten: college teaching, equal pay. I also could get a university education - which used to be closed to women. My father's mother was beaten and sent home (the reward was to come after death.) There is so massively much good coming from these movements. You are throwing out the baby with the bathwater. There were massive injustices. They needed to be addressed. I must say, you sound utterly horrifically brainwashed to me - as brainwashed as any of the people who are pro-injection. You also sound as if you have no awareness of history - the many injustices.

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alaskachick's avatar

You are kinda mean. lol

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Elsa's avatar

I care about the truth. Mean? I wouldn't say so.

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