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Lookatit's avatar

No CO2, no life.

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Alice's avatar

And of course they ignore how we get the lithium and communities of children and adults harmed being forced into slave labor to mine it. And as more of these cars end up on the road the more stories about spontaneously combusting lithium batteries are starting to make headlines. Safe and effective as they’d say.

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IainW's avatar

It's Cobalt extraction that uses kids to mine in very dangerous conditions. Lithium involves very large and toxic/polluting evaporation ponds that uses lots of water. Approximately 2.2 million litres of water is needed to produce one ton of lithium.

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Rob Polans's avatar

Want something crazier Jimmy? I heard from a guy who said he needs the aliens (I know, WTF hold onto that for a second) so he can live a Star Trek life. Aliens? If we have been visited by extraterrestrials, it's a damn long trip if they can make it. I think they would send something like a virus or bacterium life form, not little green or grey men like that guy expects.

Back to this Everything we've gotten balloons, "choo choos," saline that's most often a bioweapon, social distancing that's the wrong distance. All has been a giant psyops and it is effecting Canada now too. Clear WWIII stuff since sloJoe was behind it.

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Kevin's avatar

Affecting Canada? We lead the world in idiots running governments.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

He may as well say, “i have enough money to be a what I’d call a dick, climate-wise. You don’t.”

Or, “I have enough $ to continue doing whatever I need to do in order to fulfill my obscene GOD COMPLEX as well as enough $ to tell YOU what you can & cannot do.” His Texas-sized God complex is more important than our need to carry on with our lives as we see fit.

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

We humans are always the problem - and it must be true that for "them" we are. They go to so much effort, it's sort of astounding. Yes, they want the planet for something clearly, not human, imo.

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R U Kidding me.'s avatar

USA and Canada weather stations have been too close to heat retaining structures for years in urban settings!!!! Articles came out last year and before. Google it. I mean use brave. Lol.

The data is flawed!!! Probably also going on in other countries worldwide too.

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Andy Bunting's avatar

Thank you 2nd. Climate change? Climate crisis? Climate emergency? Climate armageddon?

HELLO? Get over yer lunatic selves. All of you dipsticks bleating that knackered, buggered, frigged, sadsack, mantra.

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IainW's avatar

One of the really bad things 'they' have/are doing (they being the scum behind the poisons, the climate nonsense, etc.) is brainwashing kids in schools such that kids lack critical thought and are unable to challenge the climate lies they are fed.

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Obvious's avatar

Gorebull warming is a psyop. The climate has been cooling from the peak of the Holocene.

https://holoceneclimate.com/

Satellite data shows this years temps are not higher than previous years.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/02/03/the-new-pause-lengthens-again-101-months-and-counting/

Th e sun controls earths climate.

https://iceagenow.info/geologist-the-sun-not-co2-drives-earths-climate/

CO2 has a short residence time in the atmosphere of about 4 years.

https://notrickszone.com/2017/03/26/new-literature-strongly-suggests-co2-residence-time-in-the-atmosphere-is-exaggerated/

it appears the sun's magnetic field strength is reflected in the sun spot activity. High sun spots/magnetic field, blocks cosmic rays from the earth. Low sun spots/ magnetic field allow increased cosmic ray bombardment of earth. High cosmic rays make more clouds, cool the earth, less cosmic rays gives clear sky and warming. (Svensmark

link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRevLett.81.5027)

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Kevin's avatar

Bill Gates. Bought pfizer stocks low and sold them before talking shit about the vaccine. Mastermind of all assholes.

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Katarina Christoforou's avatar

Carbon credits, what a racket.

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xor_non_super_user's avatar

hi any good reads to know about what you mentioned ? that oil is not organic ?

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Rob Polans's avatar

What the demons conveniently don't understand is C02 is a needed gas. Take it out and we die. It's that simple. Plants need it to make oxygen which in turn we need to breathe. This is simple science 101, FIRST GRADE!

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darkesthour's avatar

I agree with everything written here except one thing: the penultimate sentence and the one before it should switch places.

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Tony V's avatar

Actually EROIE has decreased for oil, we're employing more energy-intensive methods of extracting the oil. And the energy density is lower with shale than conventional (as well as more pollutive; i.e. fracking). Anyways, there is realistically no energy shortage if we switch to Generation IV nuclear-reactors and later and use more efficient sources like Thorium. EVs are economically more inefficient, more environmentally destructive and are just a means of reducing the movement of humans. Connecting everything to a smart grid makes it possible to implement their agenda to track the energy usage of every single human being and tamper it down if they are not politically aligned with their agenda.

From a first principles perspective, there is enough solar energy to power everything on Earth if we were able to capture it and the biomass on earth never disappears. Resources on earth do not magically disappear, raw materials get processed and turn into an energetically-less available form after we dispose of the finished products. Everything is simply an energetics problem (even pollution), with enough energy you can break down anything into its sub-atomic parts and reconstitute it back as a desired substance or material. Water doesn't just disappear; freshwater is limited and does get polluted but desalination is possible. Water vapour makes up the majority of the atmosphere. Most emissions get absorbed by the oceans and/or decay into other stable molecular forms anyway. If we had 2000 ppm of CO2 in the past with large megafauna, dinosaurs and such I would find it difficult to conceive we would go into a perpetual positive feedback loop of eternally heating temperatures, considering we did not presently. The TFR (fertility rate) of Western and advanced nations are already below-replacement without immigration so I don't really see a need for 'Climate Change and Austerity Measures'. They should of focused their efforts on industrializing countries with 100M+ populations that don't have the same cognitive potential of advanced countries; there's no moral justification whatsoever to limit the energy usage, pollution generation and raw minerals usage of advanced countries over less developed countries. I do share the same concerns about the ability of humans to convert disposed finished products to usable forms as a means of environmental conservation and sustainability and I also share the same concerns that a 3x-10x increase in population per 100 years is untenable with a similar change in capacity to generate food, arable land, etc given that it's unlikely every human can have a Western standard of living without externalities (i.e. billions of plasticizers going into the ocean). However, tracking CO2 emissions and energy usage (by proxy) per human and limiting it on an equalized basis is wrong. Nor is setting up a carbon-pricing schema to exempt elites from it is intelligent. The only means to develop a more advanced civilization is to develop new means or more efficient means of extracting energy, whether it's nuclear fusion or later-gen nuclear tech.

The climate has always been changing. Humans do have some effect on the microclimate, like having non-porous ground causes an urban heating effect, but nothing permanent. There are attempts to ionize the air molecules and change the weather patterns, which can also be done to create desirable climates for increased agricultural production. Hemoglobin is too complex to make, same with serum growth factors -- substitution of soy and ocogenically-derived muscle cells for fake meat, as well as bug protein with chitin that isn't digestible are just stupid in my view. More profits means nothing if you are poisoning the intelligent populations on this earth because technological developments depend on such populations and humans require essential amino acids from proteins as they are mostly hypercarnivores.

I personally don't mind a Japan-like city. Most human are obese anyways because they were evolutionarily primed to eat excess calories and fats whenever food was scarce, as we did not eat 3 meals a day everyday and stored it for usage (i.e. glycogen). Given the majority of economies are service/information-based as we got more efficient in agriculture, I actually agree with mixed-use residential areas and shorter work-weeks. Our work force participation is declining as a function of an aging population and there is less work available to do with a larger population, from a technical perspective there's no need for everyone to work 40 hour weeks anymore with underemployment + degree inflation affecting populations everywhere. Now I know their intention is to reduce resource consumption of all humans by making humans less consumerist and instituting a stupid CBIC with negative-interest rates so you can't ever accumulate wealth. That said these things aren't mutually exclusive. I am against the latter. Even if you are an elite with trillions of dollars of wealth, I can't see why after 90 women, 90 yachts, 90 mega-mansions it matters you own more land, etc. I believe it's better to go with a cooperative policy with the majority of the populace to advance civilization than adopt an elitist two-tier race program of homogenized obedient idiots and cybernetically-enhanced eugenically-bred master race that they are planning on with their DEI + 'refugee crisis' programmms.

Nutritionally depleted soils, metallic-resistant GMO crops, petroleum-based fertilizers are certainly concerns, but these are concerns of executive board members being retarded, not consumer choices. Same with corn syrup, etc -- cancerous dyes. Even if you are an elite with slaves, it makes more sense to have healthy tax-cattle than people with medical problems. I also don't agree with population control policies needing to be ramped up in Western countries which our elites seem to liken for the reasons I listed again earlier (i.e. fertility is already below-replacement and there is moral worth to the intelligent populations on this Earth than lesser-intelligent populace).

So yes, in principle, I agree with the measures to make life more convenient and accessible.

The concerns are somewhat misplaced with respect to resource preservation (more efforts should be placed in augmenting energy extraction. Using paper-based/bio-degradable materials over plasticizers/plastics is good. Changing the nature of 'jobs' to be less location-dependent and less-needed is good. Conserving and creating cycles to re-use materials instead of shipping them abroad to Africa or Asia is good. Reducing the standard of living purposefully in name of equity is not good. Removing technological obsolesce (i.e. having electronics fail in 1 year, or kitchen appliances fail in 5 years) and pursuing higher-quality metrics to circumvent profit-based motives is good. Not making everything a 20 min drive is good. Having buildings made of materials that can be easily demolished and re-made without requiring additional materials/energy is good (i.e. Japan). Creating 50,000,000 city blocks like China where everyone lives in Hong-Kong style rooms of a size of a cage by intentionally migrating large populations elsewhere in the name of climate change is not good. Forcing people to eat bug meats and not proven-to-be-safe food (i.e. lab-grown) by regulatory capture of purported health authorities like the FDA is not good. Reducing food waste and food portions is good. Promoting nutrition and healthy living styles is good. Finding industrial processes to reduce pollution is good. Investing in pollution-control infrastructure is good (i.e. whether we offshore industry to Asia or keep 'manufacturing' jobs here, it is indifferent). Overall, our elites are too focused on the 'control' aspect of every human life on this planet. Cruel as it may seem, they should direct their de-industrialization efforts more to second and third-world nations b/c post-industrial zero-growth populations already exist and the most 'civilizationally' productive (i.e. US, China, SK, Japan, Germany, etc) would decline anyways + are the only ones capable of advancing tech. Making everyone into cyborg drones that can be controlled by an AGI with an immortalized elite-transplanted personality/collective does to some extent sound cool but it would only take one solar flare to cause human extinction if the Internet of Things/Beings became true.

Also this climate change thing is not very believable to unintelligent populations anyways (i.e. incapable of mental models of processes) as some countries dump all their thrash in rivers and lakes (i.e. Philippines, Africa), burn all local trees, hunt down all fish/animals (instead of doing crop rotation/animal grazing/land management practices) so I don't know why they keep trying to indoctrinate the above-average intelligent. Taking Europe+NA+East Asia+Russia, we get about 3.15B-350M=2.8M of fairly intelligent humans. At present-level tech and consumption (only such populations), with more efficient processes coming online we'd probably have 200-years worth of raw mats+energy sources excluding nuclear. My view is we can keep a 2.5B stable population indefinitely and grow it 1.2x per 100 years or so with a good standard of living for everyone. The faster the cognitive growth/tech advancement (i.e. genetic engineering), the more likely humans can develop means to colonize other planets (like our Elites want to do) which will require 100 Tril+ population anyways.

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