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IsThisOsbornCox's avatar

The more I learn, the more frustrated I become in terms of showing my own friends what is happening. Where to start??? I'd sound like a lunatic if I shared even half of what I've learned. Is it enough to say, 'don't be so naive??'. Help!

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

We have only scratched the surface really. The rot is so deep, and the depravity is so profound that even the most extreme 'conspiracy theorists' would have difficult time wrapping their heads around what is really transpiring behind the scenes.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Also, we've had time to slowly absorb all of this. Those that bought into the narrative (if they ever wake up) will have a lot to process. It will be overwhelming, devastating for many.

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IsThisOsbornCox's avatar

Yep, agree. Sometimes I just say that I trust my own miraculous immune system to do what is has always & will always do, keep me healthy.

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Kimberly's avatar

Have you seen Xtreme Realities videos? Nicholson 1968? The Cabal Series?

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there was an actual virus, extinct in the wild, but they keep injecting the ancestral spike (with modifications). It might be important for you to remember what Reiner Fuellmich said, and I am paraphrasing: "once you accept the virus pandemic was created for the shot, not the shot made for the virus, more of it will make sense". The virus was never mishandled, they made changes to long standing rules and procedures, in order to produce changes they wanted. And to produce vast profits. If what we see around us is not what they intended to happen, they would have changed what they were doing.

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aj's avatar

they didn't have scanning electron microscopes and DNA amplifiers 100 years ago

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Melissa Leigh's avatar

IтАЩm not as negative in calling anyone тАЬcontrolled opposition.тАЭ I think itтАЩs too hard for anyone to believe this level of evil (and organization) is possible to have unleashed this. No one with a soul can want to believe itтАЩs possible.

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I disagree. Most of those names have clearly stated it was the lack of proactive care that killed most of the elderly. Yes, I believe they all still ascribe to germ theory. I havenтАЩt researched for myself the idea that viruses donтАЩt cause illness to have a position, and IтАЩve avoided diving into it (I do have to work at least some of the time) but will have to get into understanding the argument at some point. I can only take so many red pills at a time!

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

I think your last para explains it. They are leading their audiences, slowly, toward the final conclusion. Too quickly and they will lose them. People are not ready to look at the immensity of the evil that surrounds them and that they ignorantly participate in. Most may never be ready.

Frankly, I am well past needing more documentation of it. I want to see the blood of the monsters responsible for this running in the streets. But then, that is us, isnтАЩt it?

The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

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KW NORTON's avatar

I have failed over three years to convince anyone differently who was initially determined to follow the mainstream narrative. One of my daughters is coming around slowly - like watching paint dry. More revelations from my grown kids may surface this holiday. We are trying to prevent food fights unless maybe it is marshmallows. It is going to be longer and more difficult than any of us was prepared for but little else seems so important.

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

When talking sense to those who donтАЩt get it I go by my sense of how they respond to see if I have a chance of success. Some I give up on right away because I know they have their minds set. A few have been open to looking at whatтАЩs happening and some have really turned.

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KW NORTON's avatar

I would have given up on some right away three years ago. Glad I became a huge pain too so many. Can't reach everyone but any we can reach are worth it.

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Paving the Way's avatar

An effective teacher moves his pupils by offering new information that is just beyond their current awareness. If he goes to far outside of their Overton Window he loses them. You can start with the relatively low death rate, hospital incentives, ineffectiveness of the MRNA treatment and go from there. If you jump to a worldwide conspiracy to kill people you will lose them.

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KW NORTON's avatar

I have already lost a bunch by offering data which blew their little minds. You are right. But patience here escapes my capabilities.

"But Mom - what about all those people who died from Covid?"

The discussion of those who died with Covid, with the Vaccine , or with the vaccine and Covid doesn't even get off the ground. Moving on to all the toxins thought to be delivered from the Covid tests, from medical and dental care, and from our environments cannot hope to fly with these indoctrinated people.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

I've had people tell me, "That would mean our government is part of this and that's just ridiculous. Our government protects us."

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KW NORTON's avatar

Or those people in the government and/or who support this government:

"We are all on the same side."

Total and spectacular failure of intellect, common sense and imagination.

"What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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IsThisOsbornCox's avatar

ЁЯШВ Cool Hand Luke, love it!! I'll use that line.

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KW NORTON's avatar

We need to sling all the mud it is possible to sling here. To all the mudslingers!

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Deborah Richardson Evans's avatar

Great keep helping. ItтАЩs going to take a whole lot of us working for the good. Thank you.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

Wise counsel there. Thanks for so clearly stating what should be obvious.

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Kimberly's avatar

All I can say is be ready when they do. My families have shunned me ever since I started sharing my findings on FascistBook. Even my conversations with hubby are very limited. He still thinks nothing is going to happen even though too much has happened already. But, as for now, no one in our families have been hit hard. I dread the day if it comes. I can already see the look in his face but IтАЩm not the type to say тАЬTold you so.тАЭ IтАЩm just going to have to be there for him when he sees the bigger picture (other than the chemtrails). So if you can handle being shunned and the quietness that comes with it then by GodтАЩs strength do so. HeтАЩs making me stronger then IтАЩve ever been even though the hurt is still there, itтАЩs just not as bad. I forgive them. I pray that they will forgive themselves for not wanting to know and being caught up in the lies and deception.

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KW NORTON's avatar

Thanks. A kind and patient way of dealing with tough relationships today. We have a few among the deluded in our family. I work on patience also as things get worse.

Seems as if being shunned is the most promising of our problems. But I still send them blazing information to dissuade them. No response!

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

The vaxxxed are going to go ballistic

https://www.bitchute.com/video/dg9i2XWB1Jxk/

Count down to the Mass Hysteria of the Vaccinated

https://lawrencebutts.substack.com/p/count-down-to-the-mass-hysteria-of

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

And incredibly there are still many people around me that are still getting the covid shots. Here's an actual response from someone after sharing data from How Bad is My Batch. Also, her husband's health has declined since the shots but she doesn't see any correlation:

"I understand what you're saying. Terrible numbers. As for me at my age, I'd still rather get the shots than risk being on a ventilator. Just my thoughts. I've had Covid since I got shots but only cold symptoms. Still glad I got the shots."

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KW NORTON's avatar

Yes, acquaintance who should know better responded with yet another classic:

"Wow. you guys aren't vaccinated or tested? Surprised you all are still alive."

Indeed, lol.

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Deborah Richardson Evans's avatar

I sure do understand what youтАЩre saying.

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Rob Polans's avatar

Don't be frustrated, I already was for both of us and a boatload of others. I've simply turned my back on doctors and scientists. They are working against me. I know there is a small group working for and I meet them slowly. I hope this is of help.

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aj's avatar

many would refuse to even look at it, the cognitive dissonance of discovering they were 'wrong', or 'had', even if it was someone else's coercion, is simply too much for some to contemplate. So they just won't go there. That has been the experience of many on these forums. I can't tell you the numbers of people who posted something along the lines of "I am the only one in my family and friends unvaxxed, they all think I am a conspiracy theorist". Try it with your most open minded acquaintance, and be gentle (no 'naive' talk), and back off as soon as they start getting upset. If you know someone with an actual scientific background, you can try showing them data.

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KW NORTON's avatar

So true thanks. Good old cognitive dissonance. denial and just plain ignorance. The best friends of fascism.

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