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jjinUK64's avatar

Yes, he's been asked. He has answered, many times - there are lots of videos of him answering (on X, Rumble etc). He also goes into his business background (successes, also the failures) in his book, Woke Inc.

I recommend it actually, it's an excellent book. A neighbour of mine gave me her copy after she finished reading it. After the first chapter or so I decided to buy the audiobook version (I prefer to listen to books, so I can move around and do things!). He narrates it himself.

I'm unclear on why the deep state would run a candidate that is going around saying the govt should be reduced by 75% and the govt is lying about 9/11, and they should consider winding up the Fed, etc. The deep state interests seem to be backing Nikki Hayley, hoping for a 2 horse race between Nikki and Trump, then they bump off Trump and that leaves Hayley as the R candidate.

I suppose we can't know for certain Vivek's intentions, but his ideas are very cogent, and his policy proposals are actually specific — he is not just saying random stuff like "We will build a wall" ...he's actually got a clear policy, and has thought about how to get things done legally (without getting tied down by activist lawfare, as Trump did). There is more meat on the bone that any other candidate running. If he could do even 30% of what he is proposing, it would be a huge improvement, but let's see. Iowa primary is today.

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Cindi's avatar

Politicians make all sorts of promises @ the candidate stage that they either have no intention of keeping, or they will be prevented from keeping. Why wouldn’t the deep state or Black Rock or pharma or any of the others he’s bashing let him go all out against them if he was being maneuvered to be president or someone very high up in a Republican administration? Everything he will have said or promised can be turned on a dime on Day 1.

He has also advocated a 59% (or worse) inheritance tax because he doesn’t believe families should be able to pass on their wealth to heirs - as if it is his or the government’s business how we distribute our property (I’m naive, I know - I think we already really “own” nothing as we are taxed to death & those taxes deeply misused). You can bet HIS hundreds of millions will be sheltered for his family to inherit (interview w/ Smercornish)

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jjinUK64's avatar

Of course politicians can lie.

On the point about taxation, that is a profound misrepresentation of his position.

He has signed the Americans for Tax Reform’s no-tax-increase pledge, and he is for a 12% flat rate tax.

In his book Nation of Victims, he discusses the various models of taxation on inherited wealth (Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez etc) in the context of the problem of wealth being allowed to concentrate to a kind of oligarchic extreme (a society dominated by a handful of billionaires, with everyone else living like serfs).

His books discuss a number of issues in this manner — talking about the problems, then the various theories on solutions, and the legal and moral context for an array of policy options. In the book he is discussing / acknowledging that a high inheritance tax is one way to reverse extreme wealth concentration over a few generations, and re-establish a strong middle class. This is true. Nevertheless, he has clarified, again, recently that he is not for death taxes, he thinks there are other / better ways to go about the same task.

Instead he prefers the idea of a 12% flat tax “eliminating cronyist deductions and loopholes.” He wants to eliminate the IRS. And he thinks radically lowering taxes, simplifying the tax code down to a couple of pages, and abolishing all deductions, would be a smarter way to allow wealth to flow back towards the middle and working class (without the need for confiscatory taxation, or government playing any kind of role in redistribution). Basically, he is anti the idea of government involvement in redistributive activity, because it breeds corruption and waste.

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Cindi's avatar

We differ in our opinions. I’m a big believer in the adage “actions speak louder than words”. Of course we can’t yet know the actions unless / until he attains some high governmental position of power. It won’t be as president, @ least this time around, but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t be a very important cabinet secretary or otherwise be a trusted advisor, etc. And again, even assuming best intentions, that doesn’t mean he or anyone else would be “allowed” to achieve them by the puppet masters.

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jjinUK64's avatar

I agree with the 'actions speak louder than words' bit.

At some point though, if we want change, we will have to roll the dice and take chances on some new faces. Calculated risks, if you will.

We've been let down and screwed over so many times, that I think it's easy to become such so entrenched in cynicism that we poo pooh anyone who even tries to make change. I see that a lot in the 'freedom' community lately — most of the energy being expended is on hunting 'traitors' and 'controlled opposition' etc...

Ironically, this circular-firing-squad (borne of disappointment and cynicism) makes it even less likely that any decent people will stand up to fight for freedom ...or that they will be able to succeed if they do.

I try to balance my skepticism with pragmatism, and so I've done a fair amount of research on Vivek (listened to the speeches, and the critiques; read his books; read the counter arguments; fact checking his background and source of wealth etc) and I'm satisfied with taking a punt on him. He may indeed let us all down, but imo he is the best of the candidates (by far) and is worth a calculated risk.

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Cindi's avatar

I understand your points & appreciate them. Still, entrenched cynicism, guilty as charged. The past 3+ years were not just infuriating, but deeply traumatic. I don’t trust anyone or anything. Esp anyone who has profited from the jabs, even if it was peripherally as an investor. Has he disavowed or divested from those gains or put at least some of it toward helping people damaged by them because it turned out his gains did incredible harm but he didn’t know at the time? I have no idea, I’m just asking.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Vivek and his wife (who is a doctor) both took the first 2 Covid shots. Vivek has stated that he regrets taking it. His wife has stated that she doesn't regret it (but isn't taking more, and wouldn't consider giving it to kids). She has pointed out that they disagree slightly in their views on that (and other things).

Vivek is worth close to a billion dollars, which is how he can run for President despite not having the backing of the GOP machine, or any of it's major donors. He made his money in investment banking and start-ups, mainly Roivant, a company he founded in 2014.

Prior to founding Roivant, he worked at a hedge fund, focused on value hunting in the biotech space. Roivant was a very clear idea for a start up, and was based on his observations as a stock picker and researcher when he was a fundie. Essentially, large scale drug trials are super, super expensive to fund and take years. A lot of drugs just fail to perform as expected in the trial, so without producing a flashy result the research gets shelved and the drug maker (a Pfizer, or similar) shelve it...

But if you actually dig through what's on the shelf, you can find some drugs that appear to show a signal of benefit and would be worth pursuing further. You also find some where poor trial design appears to be obscuring a potential signal. These patents can be bought cheaply, as the drugmakers are happy to offload these shelved dev lines. So you can pick up a handful of very cheap biotech IP, and then test and see which of them might actually be a winning drug. It's low hanging fruit.

Not all the drugs are successful, obviously. Often you find out you purchased and trialed a dud. But if you hit a winner, you've acquired that patent value for much lower cost (and therefore higher profit) than is standard for the sector.

Roivant is a public company now, he only retains a 10% stake. I believe it's a bit less than that now, as he recently sold $33m worth of stock to put the funds into his campaign.

Regarding Covid: Roivant has a joint-venture with the biotech company Arbatus.

Arbatus sued Moderna for patent infringement, claiming that the LNP technology used my Moderna when making their Covid-19 vaccine Spikevax, was an infringement of an Arbatus LNP patent. The court battle is actually two separate lawsuits, and was/is pretty complex as the US Govt are also involved. In one of the suits, the appeals court has ruled in favour of Moderna. The other case is not yet resolved. But at present, Arbatus has not yet succeeded and therefore hasn't made any money from the Moderna vaccine (and therefore neither has Roivant, or Vivek).

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Texas Arcane's avatar

Vivek appears with Pete Buttigeig as a trusted resource planted in audiences and used as operatives on psyops for more than 20 years. A special pet of George Soros, listed on his site originally. Needed his Wikipedia page heavily edited to conceal all of this. Shill is shilling.

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jjinUK64's avatar

That's just factually inaccurate.

He is not a "special pet of George Soros". The only connection he has to anyone named Soros is that he won a full academic scholarship for post-grad (Yale law school), and that those scholarship places are funded by an endowment provided by the Paul & Daisy Soros Foundation. Paul is the brother of George Soros, who died in 2013. The foundation don't select the scholarship candidates, Yale do that — they just give a chunk of money each year (the endowment) and Yale use it to fund places for gifted students. Of course the Foundation put Vivek's picture on their website after he became a super successful entrepreneur! They do that with anyone who goes on to make a success of themselves, have a browse on their site.

And *of course* he sought to have this false accusation of connections removed from Wikipedia — you would too. For exactly this reason. You have now decided he is a Soros puppet, when that isn't actually true. But you believe it, because: Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is editable by anyone, and is often used to spread false information. If I were him I'd seek to have it removed too. They also did this to him with the WEF.

WEF just threw his name our there, and Wikipedia and other websites started saying he attended their courses. He did not. He had to take legal action against them to make them stop. [They lost and had to pay him damages].

It's genius really. They just throw their names over any rising talent, and tar them as 'part of the club'. Then, usually only two outcomes are possible from that point onwards: (1) the person is flattered and joins them to become a WEFfie, or (2) the person's reputation is in tatters and therefore the stubbornly non-WEFfie person has their political career cut off at the knees. It's like 'Heads they win; Tails you lose'.

They control the whole field by labelling everyone as 'their people'. Machiavellian, but very effective.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

This is precisely why i did not mention the Soros and WEF ties, but they are not even necessary to invoke when establishing a damning profile of this candidate.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Respectfully, some of the claims in this piece are not accurate, or seem to misunderstand how a business like Roivant actually works (or any publicly traded company, tbh).

Example:

"Despite never having created anything in his life other than a series of companies engaged in various blatant scams, Forbes recently estimated Ramaswamy's net worth to be more than $950 million."

Read the first half of that sentence back to yourself. In the same breath you are stating that he has created nothing of value... but also that he has founded a series of companies (one of which is now a multibillion dollar, publicly traded company, Roivant).

The idea for Roivant was genius. You may not *like* the idea, because it's biotech, but the idea itself was killer and that's why people invested. Their pipeline is strong, which is why the stock growth has been strong. The 2022 stock bump was when their promising monoclonal antibody entered PH2 of it's trials, and other pipeline drugs were looking good too. It's not a "scam" or a "ponzi scheme", it's a drug dev company that selects it's candidates from the cutting floor of much bigger firms, and retests them to find the gems.

Not all the drugs they buy the IP turn out to be winners. Some (most actually) fail. But they acquire the IP at very low cost, and with some of the testing already done. Very clever business model.

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Texas Arcane's avatar

For every Vivek, they have another 1000 people on the internet running defense for the guy on all forums and settings, as seen above.

First of all - the guy is a joke. He can't run for President any more than Nikki Haley can. He is not the natural born native son of two native born parents. Another Klownworld candidate who isn't even eligible.

Remember, God is not the author of confusion.

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Fuzz's avatar

Not buying it...

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Texas Arcane's avatar

I can't post that photo of Vivek and Buttigeig on Hardball pretending to be warm blooded mammals but both clearly regime assets for a long, long time. I think these guys were doing two-handers on a congo line for years before somebody suggested they use these towelboys as fake candidates. Get wise people, they're laughing at you.

https://knowyourmeme.com/news/vivek-ramaswamy-and-pete-buttigieg-were-on-the-same-msnbc-show-in-2003

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Bitsy54's avatar

The Deep State will run a Trojan Horse like RamASwampy to fool us. Once he is IN, he will do what they tell him. Kinda like the traitorous Michael Johnson as Speaker of the House.

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Butternut Saskatoon's avatar

Good one, Bitsy54! I think another good fit is Rama- smarmy.

Smarmy: ingratiating and wheedling in a way that is perceived as insincere or excessive... 🤔 seems to fit for this controlled opposition candidate.

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Steven Bradford's avatar

I agree with you. There is no way the deep state would run a candidate that continuously points a big public wagging finger at themselves and potentially opens millions of more eyes to the possibility that they are in fact guilty of sedition and treason, even as a diversionary tactic. It would be better for them if none of their dirty laundry was out there at all.

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jjinUK64's avatar

If they wanted to run an R candidate, they would run a controllable RINO like Hayley.

If they wanted to run a candidate to try to hijack and derail the MAGA movement, they'd go for someone like RDS - boost him up with funding to get on the ticket, then pull the rug out from under him once elected, using financial leverage.

They can't do that to either Trump or Vivek, because they have their *own money*.

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goodnightrose's avatar

Dude spent A LOT of time in Iowa, I'll give him that. I saw him on his like 6th trip to my town alone. I wanted to ask him about rumors I'd heard about his involvement in contact tracing at the beginning of the Covid scam but I wasn't called on. Had you heard anything about that?

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jjinUK64's avatar

I can't substantiate that claim, no. When I dug into it, it does not appear that Roivant were involved with that at all (makes sense, they are a prescription drug development company). I'm slightly unclear where this claim originated from, as I see it thrown around a lot, but without any actual details.

Note that I *did find* that Roivant owns IP for a monoclonal antibody called Gimsilumab (owned within a subsidiary, Kinevant). This is a drug they thought may be useful to treat Covid, but they haven't begun to make any money from it, it's still in trials.

I had a look around for whether the claim is relevant to Strive Asset Management, the anti-ESG (anti woke) fund Vivek founded in 2022. They own mainly ETFs, so no smoking guns there.

From digging around, I have come to think that this misunderstanding / confusion is related to Peter Thiel...

When Vivek founded Strive, some big names invested in the fund (Bill Ackman etc). Two of those investors were Peter Thiel and Joe Lonsdale, who co-founded Palantir years ago. *Palantir* has been involved, to some degree, with contract tracing. I think that's where people have gotten their wires crossed. I'm personally not a big fan of Thiel, or Palantir ...but Palantir is not Vivek's company, it's been around for 20 years or so.

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goodnightrose's avatar

Attempted same and couldn't really find anything. Barring some great revelation between now and 6pm, I'm planning to caucus for him. He's by far the least terrible of the lot.

I like what DeSantis did in FL on Disney and once he came to his senses on covid but he's been pretty limp wristed on issues important to me like foreign entanglements. Like Trump, VR treats the media like the lying pond scum they are while not yet having the opportunity to profoundly disappoint me in the way Trump did with covid and OWS. Also, I'd vote for the steaming dog turd next to the snowman in my front yard before a neocon like Nikki Haley.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Look into his company called DATAVANT.

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Fuzz's avatar

At last, a thinking mind in the group... Thank you! Fuzz

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Cristobal Alvarado's avatar

If you like Vivek, listen to RFK sometime.

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jjinUK64's avatar

I do like RFK.

My concerns with him are that he's still a bit squishy on the social justice stuff, and the trans issue... and I'm not down with his environmental policy — he's still not embracing nuclear, which he must if he wants to move away from FFs.

But I think he is a sincere person, and I respect his approach.

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

Read my comment below.

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

"I'm unclear on why the deep state would run a candidate that is going around saying the govt should be reduced by 75% and the govt is lying about 9/11, and they should consider winding up the Fed, etc."

After Psyop-19 we are close to critical mass with many MSM news outlets left with only 20% of the viewers/readers/listeners they had only five years ago. The alphabet agencies are experts at finding ways to give the masses what James Corbett calls "hopium". You know, hope and change, drain the swamp, more openness in government and ending wars and so on, and so forth. Hell, the orange clown even played on support from the 9/11 truth movement saying that documents regarding 9/11 would be released.

There are still many people out there that believe the existing political system will work FOR them as long as an Obama, a Sanders, a Kucinich, a Gabbard or Trump gets into the WH. It won't. It never will.

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Kim D's avatar

Geeze..............does authenticity mean nothing? He's just another Obama character, slick and smart but acting for the other side. When will people realize there is no difference between the Ds and Rs? Listen to what General MacGregor has to say. He appears to be someone to trust who has been on the inside.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Gen MacGregor is supporting Trump, as is his right.

I think there is a strange false-binary being set up, whereby if you like Trump, you have to hate Vivek (or RDS or whoever).

I don't think that's true — you can like both. There will be many people who want to vote for RDS or Vivek in the primary to propel them forward, but would absolutely support Trump in the general. They should be free to do so, the USA is not a dictatorship!

Aside from speaking well, I really don't see any similarities between Obama and Vivek. Their platforms could not be more opposite to each other, and Obama was a cultivated creature of the Dem-party machine, brought to us by the Teamsters in Chicago. Vivek, by contrast, is funding his own campaign, and getting no help from any of the GOP-side billionaires or party machinery.

I actually find it quite sad that public discourse (and rhetorical skill) has so declined since the 60s that now you literally cannot even *speak well* or people will call you a shill. Absolutely crazy. Listen to politicians from pre-Bush II... they spoke well. It was a requirement of the job back then. So few people speak well these days, that we have become used to low-IQ dullards communicating with us in the form of memes and hysterical screeching. Depressing.

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Fuzz's avatar

Agreed. A young creative mix of educated reason with some street spice mixed in; natural, like from both sides of the tracks. The idea is to come across so people can "hear" you. Truth is King... it rings or it doesn't. Individual sovereignty is always the goal.

...bullshit has a stink to it, even dogs pick up on it. It starts with you in the mirror every morning, reminding yourself to "act" free if you wanna B free. Fuzz

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Kim D's avatar

It is my understanding that General MacGregor is not a stuanch supporter of President Trump. In fact he has said he does not agree with his bully tactics in regard to dealing with foreign nations and hopes that he has learned much from his mistakes in his first term. As for the similarities between Vivek and Obama, what do you think about his plagiarizing Obama's speech? https://www.tiktok.com/@rukiddingme0/video/7284589061958847790

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jjinUK64's avatar

Honestly... I think this is silliness of the highest order.

And Republicans deserve to lose if this is the level of the discussion being had.

These are common phrases.

At least 2 of them are cribbed directly from Ronald Reagan, and the 'American ideals' one was Woodrow Wilson, but vast numbers of politicians have said some version of all of these.

TikTok supercuts of recycled classic rhetoric... is not it.

I only care about the substance, this is fluff. I'm interested in the meat of the policy proposals, the track record of the candidate, and whether I can understand the funding and backing. In all 3 of these areas, Vivek and Obama have literally nothing in common.

The *only* thing they have in common is that they are talented orators (as more candidates should be). I take this TikTok stuff as a sign of appallingly low standards, and of China's depthless efforts to encourage us to tear ourselves apart from the inside over utter nonsense, while the west burns.

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