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Soyelcaminodelfuturo's avatar

He’s definitely credible on paper but I have long since abandoned any confidence in politicians. The public face of government in the guise of presidents and prime ministers is a farcical PR shop window providing the facade of democracy traditionally required to glue together the pretence of benevolence. This kabuki theatre is rapidly becoming redundant as rational argument progressively morphs into persuasion, nudging, coercion and enforcement. Propaganda once needed to be plausible but it’s now increasingly just a transparent tissue of pernicious lies.

To misquote Churchill, Ramaswamy is the worst candidate on the presidential ticket apart from all the others.

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🤡🌎's avatar

Look at the fraud in Italy. She’s runs as a hardliner on immigration then proceeds to open the gates.

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wilson's avatar

and that is precisely what will happen with Ramaswamy. With preference to his racial group, of course.

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

Plan all along or approached by the powers that be?

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

The people can do nothing without leaders. Only if the rich and influential start resisting the ruling class / conspiracy, trans human agenda can it be stopped.

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Soyelcaminodelfuturo's avatar

Agreed with qualification. We think we elect ‘leaders’, and we think they represent us. It’s a smokescreen. These so called leaders dance to a tune played by unelected, unaccountable and unknown players. We don’t even know where the orchestra is, never mind what it’s playing.

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

I didn't say it was easy. However, the important thing is for the rich and powerful to be fighting each other. However, the ruling class / conspiracy thinks it has or does have the Elite in lockstep. Organizations like David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission organized the Major Corporations. . . even Charles Koch who father must be rolling over in his grave. The old man Koch helped found the John Birch Society.

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Soyelcaminodelfuturo's avatar

If rich and powerful equated to benevolence and influence then Trump would have made a bigger difference. He has a lot more wealth and ‘power’ than Ramaswamy. But the path to personal enrichment is less rocky if you’re aligned with the establishment. Fighting is for rebels, not comfortable oligarchs, technocrats and the nest feathering grifters in their slipstream. Whilst we’re on the subject, include Musk in that list.

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

It used to be different. If one faction campaigned for program X, competing elements in the ruling class might disparage program x not just because they opposed X, but because they opposed the propagator of X. The PlanDemic showed that sort of thing is much more muted now.

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Soyelcaminodelfuturo's avatar

This I can agree with.

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

If there are major factions of the Establishment things are different. "Grifter" is being used too liberally. It doesn't mean everyone making money.

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Soyelcaminodelfuturo's avatar

I think we are in conceptual agreement but I don’t understand some of your comments.

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wilson's avatar

I agree. Why would anyone need a leader? A potus has specific duties, adhere to the Constitution, defend the borders and that's about all.

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Lloyd Miller's avatar

How about a hint of what methods you are talking about.

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