I've been toying with AnCap for a while. Shared this with a neighbor who's still stuck on the left when it comes to the destruction of life via abortion and spaying/neutering human beings via queer theory. She can't get over the CogDis... Nonetheless, she sees evil, greed, corruption everywhere, even in places I never thought to look.
A small incident I read in the true novel "Babi Yar" shows an example of an ungoverned group - albeit short lived.
It goes as such... The boy, Kolya, and an escaped prisoner from a "camp" in Ukraine in 1941 headed out of Kiev to farmfolk about a 2-day journey away. When they got there the people were living in unbelievable abundance (considering everyone in Kiev were on the brink of starvation, essentially). Their store houses were stocked, etc. The two of them were shocked. The explanation given was, after the German Nazi's rousted the Commies they had no overlords at the bullshit collective farms, which had been an embarrassing disaster with low production, and the Germans didn't bother them because of the distance from the cities and the general inability to dedicate attention to them at that time.
A year or so later, Kolya returned to the farm. By then, the Nazi's had created such profound depletion of everything that they went out to the farms and stole everything and beat the shit out of them and took the people to the labor camps.
One season without government interference and abundance.
There was an accidental experiment with the early American settlers whereby they attempted to socialize their community. Everything went to shit in less than a year as the lazy grifted and the hard workers felt exploited.
Free markets find their productive equilibriums and hence prosperities, while governments metastasize in their parasitism a la socialism = communism = fascism.
But, but, if we don't have an organized system of intimidation, extortion, robbery, kidnapping, torture and murder to inflict on each other, it could result in....disorder.
Until very recently, I mean during the lockdowns, I used to think that Anarchy was a b-word, and that those involved or advocating for it, the anarchists, are a rebellious bunch bent toward chaos and mischief. But the more I look into the organised political party systems, the more I think that the historical party constructs have sabotaged 'anarchism' and painted a bad image of it and rather alienated citizens from it. I wondered if it has a CIA misinformation effort to destroy anarchism in order to maintain the status quo of the political establishment's! This article is helpful in bringing anarchism in the general psyche as a force for good! Thank you.
Astrid, Thank you for your service!! I hope I have been able to help you wake up someone you love! If I have would you please send me a testimonial or anecdote.. Etienne@ArtOfLiberty.org
Absolutely happy to give you a testimonial! So very thrilled to find you on Substack.
I first saw Etienne de la Boetie2 interviewed by James Corbett a couple of years ago. I was extremely impressed and bought a copy of his book. At the time, I was actually financially flush and after reading it purchased 20 copies of his book to hand out to people I thought might be open to the ideas expressed. Most of the feedback has been neutral to mildly positive. I have had some interesting discussions with people but have found, that like “vaccines”, there is horrendous cognitive dissonance when questioning the concept of government. I still think the book is amazingly well researched and the ideas accessible.
"the progressive development of the animal kingdom, and especially of mankind, is favoured much more by mutual support than by mutual struggle’.
“The whole aspect of the universe changes with this new conception. The idea of force governing the world, of pre-established law, preconceived harmony, disappears to make room for the harmony that Fourier had caught a glimpse of: the one which results from the disorderly and incoherent movements of numberless hosts of matter, each of which goes its own way and all of which hold each other in equilibrium.”
The masses don't matter... There is 10-15% of the population that matters... they are the artists, the intellectuals, the professoriate, the entrepreneurs, the business executives... Win them and they drag the rest of society with them...
Very interesting, but I'm pretty concerned on Etienne start where in the infographics of "Ism" there are neither Fascism nor Nazism, that are actually the form of Government of USA/Canada and most of EU. In other words Western Countries are all under a sophisticated and hiidden form of Nazi Fascism as we all are witnessing everyday, and especially with Covid and in this Nazi Ukrainians war against Russia that's no more communist or socialist...
As an anarchist I can face all of those "ism" listed and discuss and try to have freedom or change the status quo as I've done since High School years, but with this Nazi Fascists you can't discuss, you can only fight them as they are the same as in the '30s! And I don't forget my Grands and parents lesson on what happened in EU not fighting them since the begging...
Kazimir, too funny... The 1st part of "Government" - The Biggest Scam in History starts out breaking down 20+ techniques that organized crime uses to track people into "government" and then I show what it looks like in Nazi Germany, USA, East Germany, and the Soviet Union.. Email me at Info@ArtOfLiberty.org and I'll send you a free PDF of the book!
This is super interesting but I believe would only work in motivated, culturally homogeneous groups where people are equally interested in the well being of others. Places like Orania are thriving but I think they have a Mayor and are not ancap.
"There is no evidence to suggest that anarchism would lead to chaos and disorder." ... um, does CHAZ not register and acknowledgement?
It's fun to play with words, especially in this day and age of relativist truth, but simply using a definition of a word, which itself is a symbol of an idea, and believe that all others believe in the same symbolic definition is not realistic.
I agree with the need for more "voluntaryism". But there is, always has been and always will be a need for some form of "state", "borders" and system of rule, unless the desire is for tribalism to reach its peak and become a region similar to the pre-Columbian native American "nations", that roamed, conquered, pillaged and fought just like any other pack of homo sapiens throughout history.
It is the size of the state, the level of power ceded to it that is important.
The organized crime media likes to point at Antifa and Chaz to try to trick people into thinking that voluntaryism and peaceful anarchy are about communism, chaos and disorder. Don't believe the hype! Look at the Free State Project in New Hampshire that is proly 1/2 peaceful anarchists and 1/2 minarchists who are slowly and surely rolling back "government" to just protecting life, liberty and property... https://artofliberty.substack.com/p/new-hampshires-free-state-project
It seems to me that Anarchism cannot by definition be 'implemented'. It would have to be enacted individually, and only individually, to be Anarchism. Othwise just another top down system, or some 'someone's' idea of how it should look, not how it would really look.
What you could do is roll back the "Government" to just protecting life, liberty and property... then, ultimately, privatize that. This is going on in New Hampshire which is becoming a "laboratory of liberty" for the country with the Free State Project: https://artofliberty.substack.com/p/new-hampshires-free-state-project
Thank you Etienne, I am glad to know about this. It will be interesting to see just how the dollar really fails, and if this failure will at least serve to begin to do what you suggest, to remove a few layers of government around it's incredibly bloated middle and top. I know the death of the dollar would be devastating for me personally, but I think it will be super devastating to some very bad folks as well, 'silver' linings. best
Thank you for showing how anarchy is not to be feared. I'll give you some real life (my) experiences, maybe they'll help even more. I'm an anarchist yet I served in the Marines 44 years, that shouldn't be, I should be a bomb-throwing nut. I leave that to the fbi. Do I want no government? Yes. Do I think it will ever be? Not in my lifetime. I really just want a very limited one. No agencies, unless the President creates them. I've yet to understand (unfortunately) how non violent will work but if my plan is followed we may find out. Otherwise, the Day of Vengeance that some trans people are threatening tomorrow along with boogaloo boys may be their last gasp. Many eyes on them now and eyes in the sky (drones).
I've been toying with AnCap for a while. Shared this with a neighbor who's still stuck on the left when it comes to the destruction of life via abortion and spaying/neutering human beings via queer theory. She can't get over the CogDis... Nonetheless, she sees evil, greed, corruption everywhere, even in places I never thought to look.
Get out of LA before it's too late.
The most I can do is have a plan B. Otherwise, divorce and dog-napping...
Send me her e-mail address and I'll send her a free e-pub of "Government" - The Biggest Scam in History... Exposed!
I'll send you mine instead! She would flip out. Is there a back channel you're comfortable on? Twitter DM?
Info@ArtOfLiberty.org
I'd love to have a copy too!
E-mail me as well.. I'm giving away free copies to thank everyone who reads the comments in the @2ndsmartestguyintheworld s community!
Thanks. I also sent an email.
email sent!
A small incident I read in the true novel "Babi Yar" shows an example of an ungoverned group - albeit short lived.
It goes as such... The boy, Kolya, and an escaped prisoner from a "camp" in Ukraine in 1941 headed out of Kiev to farmfolk about a 2-day journey away. When they got there the people were living in unbelievable abundance (considering everyone in Kiev were on the brink of starvation, essentially). Their store houses were stocked, etc. The two of them were shocked. The explanation given was, after the German Nazi's rousted the Commies they had no overlords at the bullshit collective farms, which had been an embarrassing disaster with low production, and the Germans didn't bother them because of the distance from the cities and the general inability to dedicate attention to them at that time.
A year or so later, Kolya returned to the farm. By then, the Nazi's had created such profound depletion of everything that they went out to the farms and stole everything and beat the shit out of them and took the people to the labor camps.
One season without government interference and abundance.
Down with greed!
That's about right.
There was an accidental experiment with the early American settlers whereby they attempted to socialize their community. Everything went to shit in less than a year as the lazy grifted and the hard workers felt exploited.
Free markets find their productive equilibriums and hence prosperities, while governments metastasize in their parasitism a la socialism = communism = fascism.
Talk to anyone who homesteaded anywhere in the US. I did in Penn. Station.
But, but, if we don't have an organized system of intimidation, extortion, robbery, kidnapping, torture and murder to inflict on each other, it could result in....disorder.
I wasn't aware that we did have one. Outside of organized crime.
Until very recently, I mean during the lockdowns, I used to think that Anarchy was a b-word, and that those involved or advocating for it, the anarchists, are a rebellious bunch bent toward chaos and mischief. But the more I look into the organised political party systems, the more I think that the historical party constructs have sabotaged 'anarchism' and painted a bad image of it and rather alienated citizens from it. I wondered if it has a CIA misinformation effort to destroy anarchism in order to maintain the status quo of the political establishment's! This article is helpful in bringing anarchism in the general psyche as a force for good! Thank you.
Distraction and fear.
Thank you so much! I’ve been a huge fan of
Etienne de la Boetie2! I’ve bought over 20 copies of his book to hand out.
So thrilled to find that he’s on Substack!
Astrid, Thank you for your service!! I hope I have been able to help you wake up someone you love! If I have would you please send me a testimonial or anecdote.. Etienne@ArtOfLiberty.org
Sent you an email, but I’ll post it here also:
Absolutely happy to give you a testimonial! So very thrilled to find you on Substack.
I first saw Etienne de la Boetie2 interviewed by James Corbett a couple of years ago. I was extremely impressed and bought a copy of his book. At the time, I was actually financially flush and after reading it purchased 20 copies of his book to hand out to people I thought might be open to the ideas expressed. Most of the feedback has been neutral to mildly positive. I have had some interesting discussions with people but have found, that like “vaccines”, there is horrendous cognitive dissonance when questioning the concept of government. I still think the book is amazingly well researched and the ideas accessible.
☮️💕🐩
Astrid
"the progressive development of the animal kingdom, and especially of mankind, is favoured much more by mutual support than by mutual struggle’.
“The whole aspect of the universe changes with this new conception. The idea of force governing the world, of pre-established law, preconceived harmony, disappears to make room for the harmony that Fourier had caught a glimpse of: the one which results from the disorderly and incoherent movements of numberless hosts of matter, each of which goes its own way and all of which hold each other in equilibrium.”
-- Peter Kropotkin
Accurate, and logical.
The masses will never accept this, as they have been conditioned to accept rulers over rules.
Stockholm syndrome is almost impossible to reverse!
The masses don't matter... There is 10-15% of the population that matters... they are the artists, the intellectuals, the professoriate, the entrepreneurs, the business executives... Win them and they drag the rest of society with them...
The masses don't matter?
This is exactly the type of elitist attitude that got us in the mess we are currently in!
That said, I've never followed "leaders" at all, unless its by force.
Very interesting, but I'm pretty concerned on Etienne start where in the infographics of "Ism" there are neither Fascism nor Nazism, that are actually the form of Government of USA/Canada and most of EU. In other words Western Countries are all under a sophisticated and hiidden form of Nazi Fascism as we all are witnessing everyday, and especially with Covid and in this Nazi Ukrainians war against Russia that's no more communist or socialist...
As an anarchist I can face all of those "ism" listed and discuss and try to have freedom or change the status quo as I've done since High School years, but with this Nazi Fascists you can't discuss, you can only fight them as they are the same as in the '30s! And I don't forget my Grands and parents lesson on what happened in EU not fighting them since the begging...
But after reading both posts I'll comment more.
Kazimir, too funny... The 1st part of "Government" - The Biggest Scam in History starts out breaking down 20+ techniques that organized crime uses to track people into "government" and then I show what it looks like in Nazi Germany, USA, East Germany, and the Soviet Union.. Email me at Info@ArtOfLiberty.org and I'll send you a free PDF of the book!
This is super interesting but I believe would only work in motivated, culturally homogeneous groups where people are equally interested in the well being of others. Places like Orania are thriving but I think they have a Mayor and are not ancap.
A better term is Decentralization not Anarchy because that is almost indistinguishable from anarcho-tyranny.
"There is no evidence to suggest that anarchism would lead to chaos and disorder." ... um, does CHAZ not register and acknowledgement?
It's fun to play with words, especially in this day and age of relativist truth, but simply using a definition of a word, which itself is a symbol of an idea, and believe that all others believe in the same symbolic definition is not realistic.
I agree with the need for more "voluntaryism". But there is, always has been and always will be a need for some form of "state", "borders" and system of rule, unless the desire is for tribalism to reach its peak and become a region similar to the pre-Columbian native American "nations", that roamed, conquered, pillaged and fought just like any other pack of homo sapiens throughout history.
It is the size of the state, the level of power ceded to it that is important.
The organized crime media likes to point at Antifa and Chaz to try to trick people into thinking that voluntaryism and peaceful anarchy are about communism, chaos and disorder. Don't believe the hype! Look at the Free State Project in New Hampshire that is proly 1/2 peaceful anarchists and 1/2 minarchists who are slowly and surely rolling back "government" to just protecting life, liberty and property... https://artofliberty.substack.com/p/new-hampshires-free-state-project
What a coincidence, I just wrote about this yesterday! It's tough finding a term that hasn't already been dragged through the mud by the media.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/the-power-of-voluntary-transactions
Nailed it!
It seems to me that Anarchism cannot by definition be 'implemented'. It would have to be enacted individually, and only individually, to be Anarchism. Othwise just another top down system, or some 'someone's' idea of how it should look, not how it would really look.
What you could do is roll back the "Government" to just protecting life, liberty and property... then, ultimately, privatize that. This is going on in New Hampshire which is becoming a "laboratory of liberty" for the country with the Free State Project: https://artofliberty.substack.com/p/new-hampshires-free-state-project
Thank you Etienne, I am glad to know about this. It will be interesting to see just how the dollar really fails, and if this failure will at least serve to begin to do what you suggest, to remove a few layers of government around it's incredibly bloated middle and top. I know the death of the dollar would be devastating for me personally, but I think it will be super devastating to some very bad folks as well, 'silver' linings. best
Well shoot. My handle was chosen cause I just thought it was humorous, with elemental knowledge of LS. Now I gotta really read more LS...
and my copy of The Politics of Disobedience...
and my copy of Our Enemy The State...
and order The White Pill.
Can I watch a few more Andy Griffith Show episodes before I do my homework?
Thank you for showing how anarchy is not to be feared. I'll give you some real life (my) experiences, maybe they'll help even more. I'm an anarchist yet I served in the Marines 44 years, that shouldn't be, I should be a bomb-throwing nut. I leave that to the fbi. Do I want no government? Yes. Do I think it will ever be? Not in my lifetime. I really just want a very limited one. No agencies, unless the President creates them. I've yet to understand (unfortunately) how non violent will work but if my plan is followed we may find out. Otherwise, the Day of Vengeance that some trans people are threatening tomorrow along with boogaloo boys may be their last gasp. Many eyes on them now and eyes in the sky (drones).
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/original-social-engineering-sin