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Note: there is absolutely ZERO divide and conquer in this debate.

I respect Steve's work very much.

This debate would bring tremendous eyeballs to our cause.

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Jan 18, 2023Liked by 2nd Smartest Guy in the World

I so much appreciate Steve's openness to learning - and yours to reaching out to him. If we can listen and debate, so much amazing good stuff is possible. Thank you and thank you, Steve.

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Jan 18, 2023Liked by 2nd Smartest Guy in the World

Following The Science...and going where Steve Kirsch didn't go with the FAA piece...

Following the Science, which clearly states ever since I was in graduate school that a PR interval on an ECG should be between 90 and 200msec (https://www.sciencedirect.com/.../biochemistr.../pr-interval), the FAA mysteriously has suggested that an additional 100msec (up to 300msec) is given to pilots before they should be considered for potential AV-block (https://www.faa.gov/.../exam_tech/item36/amd/arrhythmias/). This change was made in October of last year! https://www.faa.gov/.../ame/guide/media/Normal_Variants.pdf

Fly Safe and Effective!

Pseudouridine - an agent used in the stabilization of mRNA - has long been known to have a direct NEGATIVE impact on the myocardial tissue. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7255589/ and its references). Ralph Baric knew this. Other mRNA engineers knew this. How do I know and why should the FAA and pilots' union care?

Because this was funded by NIH:

"This research was supported by the National Institute on Aging as well as the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute of the National Institutes of Health under grant numbers R21AG051914 (Principal Investigator, Tanika N. Kelly), 5R01AG041200-05 (Principal Investigator, Lydia A. Bazzano), and P20GM109036 (Principal Investigator, Jiang He)"

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He’s a slow-to-wake-up guy

Can’t we all be a bit daft?

When the facts change, we change

This is a guy that supported radical (leftist) agenda but woke up eventually. Be gracious in victory

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I think it is okay for Mr. Kirsch to stick with theories he can better demonstrate to typical skull full of mush citizens. People have to cross the "they don't mind killing us" bridge before they can come to the "they want us all dead" bridge.

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Jan 18, 2023·edited Jan 18, 2023

Steve has been shouting from the rooftops that these experimental injections are killing people, and continue to kill, weeks and months after receiving them. That's the most important message to get out to the public. What difference does it make whether the killing is due to greed and speed of development or whether they were designed to kill? Either way, the public needs to know that these injections are deadly. The problem with going all in on "they were deliberately designed to kill" is that that would be very difficult to prove AND--and this is important!--very difficult to convince the public that the shots were designed to kill people. It's hard enough convincing them that they are deadly, but if you throw "it's deliberate, the shots were DESIGNED to kill" into the mix, people respond with "crazy tinfoil conspiracy theorist" and walk away. I say let's stick to what can be clearly shown with the mountain of evidence that we have. Maybe it will come out that the design of the shots was to create a slow kill, but we can tackle that once the majority of the public finally opens their eyes to how deadly these shots really are.

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He wants you to be wrong.

We all do.

Unfortunately you appear not to be.

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This seems to me a “technicality.” He is on the correct side of history, if not originally calling this genocide. I hope he keeps his money to keep on fighting for humanity.

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Jan 18, 2023·edited Jan 18, 2023

Dr Bailey (Virus Mania) and Christine Massey that does the FOIAs about Sars-Cov-2 and other viruses have attempted to reach out to Kirsch and he initially engaged them, and then ghosted them entirely.

https://drsambailey.com/the-covid-sceptics-who-spread-viral-dogma/

https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/the-real-reason-i-now-refuse-to-debate

https://drsambailey.com/warnings-signs-you-have-been-tricked-by-virologists-again/

Mathew Crawford was doing some research regarding the DMED and other related research and was on Kirsch's vaccine steering committee, but resigned due to Steve apparently not wanting to work on his own committee. https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/i/89588522/focus-on-what-is-important-fraud

edit: Ray i think also tried to engage him previously: https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/steve-kirsch-is-challenging-again

What do all 3 have in common? They either debunked germ theory entirely, or had integrity in sharing their research. They had nothing to gain by playing both sides. Kirsch has no SCIENTIFIC reason to use money as a ruse to debate people.....except perhaps to convince a public who assumes only rich people have common sense and/or research skills that they should just believe what a rich man says to pay attention to.

Some of the best limited hangouts give you some truth, but serve as a distraction from the larger wins (E.g. what's in the vial? How accurate can Covid "case" stats be with the current (and historical) PCR testing methods? Why did CDC recommend marking death certificates a dying OF covid-19....let alone as a primary cause of death?)

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It is probably impossible to conduct a fair debate and to tell which side is to blame:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/steve-kirsch-is-challenging-again

And the mass poisoning is now making the injections nearly irrelevant and a side show:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/a-summary-of-general-poisoning

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Steve's betting shenanigans is starting to become annoying it must be said. It is starting to mask the actual message.

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I'd say that your and Steve's proclivity to insult anyone with an opposing view is on par with each other. But we really don't need truthers pissing all over eachother.

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I read both you and Steve and appreciate you both. With a goal of medical freedom and transparency about what is going on many doctors are failing and we need to correct this and eliminate medical mandates permanently.

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Steve has written in a comment "Sasha is correct", referencing Sasha Latypova, although he did not concede that Katherine Watt is similarly correct. I think you're right that Steve has the moral and intellectual integrity to mull this over and is prepared to change his mind given enough evidence.

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I really like Steve Kirsch and you, and I look forward to both your substacks. You are both working so hard to bring the truth to light of what has happened to us. You are both smart, decent men whom I greatly admire. Please don't bet each other for money. Just engage in a thoughtful, respectful discussion so that we can learn more.

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Great idea, great work, if not Steve, then someone else should take the other side, even if onboard, so the issues could be hashed out live and people could see them spoken of and challenged and rebutted and the dialectic can come back to life. Bless you, Leland

518-567-4452 rll@fund-balance.com by the way, if near new york we need folks like you to come to this meeting with the NYS Public Health Planning Council. Can you send someone? Everyone has three minutes to comment on each agenda item (usually three) and we could do a press conference for fuller treatment.

https://www.health.ny.gov/facilities/public_health_and_health_planning_council/2023_meeting_schedule.htm

This is the outfit that tried to ram through quarantine camps in NY and NY Governor Hochul is appealing the court case that struck it down. Help!

Here's me on the basics of the NY situation:

https://rumble.com/v25wgli-the-health-freedom-issue-has-become-the-bellwether-ny-activist-talks-laws-a.html

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