UPDATE 2 - Please Vote on the Twitter Poll: Steve Kirsch is Dead Wrong About the True Nature of the COVID-19 "Vaccines" -- Will He Debate Dr. David Martin and Our Team?
UPDATE 2 - Please Vote on the Twitter Poll: Steve Kirsch is Dead Wrong About the True Nature of the COVID-19 "Vaccines" -- Will He Debate Dr. David Martin and Our Team?
Has it ever occurred to you that there is a distinct advantage in having Kirsch focus entirely on the NOT 'safe and effective' front?
In doing so, he will reach many people who are simply unwilling to accept the 'bioweapon' claim.
In many ways Kirsch is a gateway to your position.
Try to comprehend the critical importance of defending against this assault on humanity by tackling many fronts. Back off a little. You'll get no prizes for reducing the ability to reach as many people as possible.
PS It is of little consequence as to whether Kirsch is aware, and deliberately avoiding the 'bioweapon' reality, or unaware.
I think there is some wisdom in this, I also think they could get together and share information. It does not need to be a "debate" more of a discussion. I think if Steve saw the evidence that Dr. David Martin has, he would take it in and processes it. I think it would make him an even stronger advocate against the bio-weapon shots.
Either way, Kirsch is throwing a much wider net to bring in new recruits to fight this battle. It makes no sense whatsoever to reduce the awakening entry point.
I agree mostly. I have followed Steve as he woke up, the entire journey. I was a few months ahead of him in that process. But not with his type of skills. I am more of a preponderance of the evidence guy these days.
In my view, he has a blind spot or two especially when it comes to accountability. I think Dr. David Martin could help fill much of that. But I also think that Steve would need some time to process it.
Dr. David Martin, when talking in his areas of expertise, is the smartest, most well researched and backed by evidence person I have ever heard speak. And I have heard many smart people speak.
I think we essentially agree on pretty much everything, The main point for me, is if they got together in a friendly way (not a debate) and shared information ... everybody wins and no one loses.
Well nobody is an overstatement :). Plus many of us share this stuff. However, the second sentence, is likely accurate :(, it does indeed seem that unless something is either reported sufficiently, or touches the majority of lives ... etc. :(
Hear hear! I think steve has demonstrated that he can adjust his thinking and just because David Martin understands more than any person on earth about the present situation a friendly sharing would be much more productive than betting
Actually the true spirit of Debate is what is needed in this and every other issue at hand. Facts presented for and against with no pressure in what the debate will provide fairly and openly. Nothing hidden and no fraud allowed.
That's a nice platitude, but, what is needed is an effective strategy. Kirsch building numbers of converts, and Martin cementing the case against these tyrants is an effective strategy at this time.
Be very careful with your boy Dr. David Martin. He's got the eye of Osiris tattoed on his body, and he has a long career working with globalist institutions, and a web-site covered with masonic symbols. I would strongly suggest that you need independent confirmation for anything he says.
I have been threatened with a ban on the Kirsch SS for suggesting - multiple times - that instead of wasting time with debates that will never happen ...
He take a few bucks and hire a PI to find out what happened to Tiffany Dover.
She was one of the first nurses to get the magic sauce injected into her live on tv.
She was being interviewed and saying how wonderful the magic suce was and then promptly collapsed whilst on camera live for all to see.
I personally dont think that it would make much difference to most people if this woman died or if she survivied, I find that most people are immune to critical thinking, they just roll up their sleeve because that is what they are told to do.
Yes, he’s naive about the true intent of the vax, but he’s mostly on our side. Pick your fights with those who are pro vax. You’re wasting valuable resources by attacking people like Kirsch. Get busy and call out the evil people that are involved in the population reduction game. They will be releasing their next bioweapon on us very soon.
If you think 2 to five years if not killed outright is slow, then you do not value life much. People are being tortured to death who do not die quickly. It is a horror that man kind has never seen before. The statistics say over 50% of the world is effected now and maybe this is an E.L.E. due to consuquences of shedding yet to be fully understood.
Compared to other chemical weapons such as Sarin gas or perhaps anthrax it is indeed "slow". The expression is a statement of fact and in no way diminishes the suffering of those where the results takes more time and in fact in many ways is even more horrific.
Yes, they will make more money from this kind of torture and receive more power from the human sacrifices to Satan- it is a very old cult. Dr. Martin- the theologian has a series on the Cults of Old and how they have infiltrated our world today and are running it by proxy. This is the perspective that Jesus pointed to in His ministry when He said to not allow any man to decieve you. They are not human- they are tares which look the same but have no Godly soul in them. All we see in the world can be ooked at through the lens of Godly - life giving or Ungodly- forceful stealing of souls mind and body for death eternal in hell. It is incumbent to visit the truth of Hell, as it is not taught in modern theology or churches. You have to study it thouroughly. The hell being produced on earth right now is fleeting by comparison. Thank you.
Ask Steve why he's being so cheap and not spending some $$$ on finding TiffanyDover.. maybe he offers money for the debate because he knows he'll never have to spend it????
Right? My exact same thought, several times a day when I am weighing in whether to hit the "tweet" button or not. And then I remember I have a kid (20s, but still)...
The time will come when others will need every healthy, fit, capable person. I don't think it would be unethical to bump up your hourly rate significantly when that time comes :)
Jan 23, 2023Liked by 2nd Smartest Guy in the World
I’m not happy because I have loved ones who took it and I worry about them!!! And the rest of humanity!! As to people not accepting the bioweapon claim ask yourself why they stopped the legal sale of ivermectin and HCQ? and insist on Remdesavir. Call it whatever. It wasn’t a true vax!! Why did it take so long for them to admit “It doesn’t stop transmission AND THEY STILL ADDED IT TO THE REQUIRED LIST FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN“ Sounds like genocide to me
I trust Kirsch. Attacking him is unprofitable. He knows he's wrong but must be disinterested. Wasting your energy on this effort is chasing the wrong target. Do something useful instead.
Jan 23, 2023Liked by 2nd Smartest Guy in the World
Somebody sent me this one yesterday, when I really needed it. Cheers!
Remember this!!!!
Fable: DON'T ARGUE WITH DONKEYS
The donkey said to the tiger:
- "The grass is blue".
The tiger replied:
- "No, the grass is green."
The discussion heated up, and the two decided to submit him to arbitration, and for this they went before the lion, the King of the Jungle.
Already before reaching the forest clearing, where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey began to shout:
- "His Highness, is it true that the grass is blue?".
The lion replied:
- "True, the grass is blue."
The donkey hurried and continued:
- "The tiger disagrees with me and contradicts and annoys me, please punish him."
The king then declared:
- "The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence."
The donkey jumped cheerfully and went on his way, content and repeating:
- "The Grass Is Blue"...
The tiger accepted his punishment, but before he asked the lion:
- "Your Majesty, why have you punished me?, after all, the grass is green."
The lion replied:
- "In fact, the grass is green."
The tiger asked:
- "So why are you punishing me?".
The lion replied:
- "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green.
The punishment is because it is not possible for a brave and intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with a donkey, and on top of that come and bother me with that question."
The worst waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who does not care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on arguments that don't make sense...
There are people who, no matter how much evidence and evidence we present to them, are not in the capacity to understand, and others are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and all they want is to be right even if they are not.
When ignorance screams, intelligence is silent. Your peace and quiet are worth more.... *
I think this needs to be framed as a discussion, not as a "debate". We're kinda on the same team are we not?
It's like if I had a friend and he had a PoV (different slant) and I found some additional information, I would say, "hey friend, I have found some info you may be interested in". Since we are friends he would say, "yea lets get together and you can show me".
The Shot is definitely a slow kill bioweapon. Sorry, I don't have a twatter account. Maybe someone can vote for me, unless voting twice is not allowed on twitter like it is in national elections. Thanks to whomever used that term twatter, so I didn't have to use the actual name of that site. :)
The vax is dangerous for 2 reasons the spike which is toxic and the MRNA plaform which is toxic.
We need to get rid of both the MRNA platform and any vaccines based on spike.In fact even the virus spike envelope is toxic.No COVID vaccine can be safe .No MRNA or DNA vaccine is safe.
The makers, the regulators ,the people who pushed it ,whether medical or not, are guilty of crimes against humanity.The medical boards who silenced and deregistered the doctors (who treated COVID patients and vax injured patients and spoke out against the vax) have blood on their hands.
Those mandating the vax have blood on their hands.
But really those who spoke out are heroes .I include in that list Steve Kirsch.He's a good man ,he's on our side.Thank him for joining his voice to ours.Extend the hand of friendship.
I ‘found’ Dr David E Martin about 12 weeks ago, and spent 2 weeks over the Christmas holidays watching dozens of his videos. He certainly possesses critically important information, facts and timelines that blow open when this whole shit show hatched and started manifesting. Am I better informed and more prescient regarding a portion of the future? YES. Do I regard Dr Martin an important voice in the rebellion, recovery and prosecution movement? YES. Do I agree that the COV injections should cease being referred to as vaccines? YES. Do I wish to see a debate between yourself, Dr Martin and Mr Kirsch? NO. Would I like to see a videoed discussion with transcript, between the three of you? YES. You are all thought leaders. You do not need to diminish one another by bumping heads.
Steve is no longer naive. Hasn’t been for awhile. Unfortunately he WAS, until right after he and his family got the shots. Now he is making up for lost time. And he KNOWS his days are numbered.
You guys are really on the same side.
It would be great if we could all just stop the infighting and focus on taking down this monstrously evil cabal.
That would require actions of dispatching the heads of the snakes quickly. The other shoe planned is ready to be implemented soon it seems. They will never stop.
I “ woke up “ before the lockdown. It’s depressing and scary to see , how deep the corruption goes, once the scales fall of your eyes. I appreciate what Steve is doing and has done. I think he needs time to look into it more. I’m glad you have challenged him. A lot of people are listening to him that would just shut down their brains if he immediately called them bio weapons. Covid was & so is the “vaccine “.
Has it ever occurred to you that there is a distinct advantage in having Kirsch focus entirely on the NOT 'safe and effective' front?
In doing so, he will reach many people who are simply unwilling to accept the 'bioweapon' claim.
In many ways Kirsch is a gateway to your position.
Try to comprehend the critical importance of defending against this assault on humanity by tackling many fronts. Back off a little. You'll get no prizes for reducing the ability to reach as many people as possible.
PS It is of little consequence as to whether Kirsch is aware, and deliberately avoiding the 'bioweapon' reality, or unaware.
I think there is some wisdom in this, I also think they could get together and share information. It does not need to be a "debate" more of a discussion. I think if Steve saw the evidence that Dr. David Martin has, he would take it in and processes it. I think it would make him an even stronger advocate against the bio-weapon shots.
Either way, Kirsch is throwing a much wider net to bring in new recruits to fight this battle. It makes no sense whatsoever to reduce the awakening entry point.
I agree mostly. I have followed Steve as he woke up, the entire journey. I was a few months ahead of him in that process. But not with his type of skills. I am more of a preponderance of the evidence guy these days.
In my view, he has a blind spot or two especially when it comes to accountability. I think Dr. David Martin could help fill much of that. But I also think that Steve would need some time to process it.
Dr. David Martin, when talking in his areas of expertise, is the smartest, most well researched and backed by evidence person I have ever heard speak. And I have heard many smart people speak.
I think we essentially agree on pretty much everything, The main point for me, is if they got together in a friendly way (not a debate) and shared information ... everybody wins and no one loses.
I too, think we essentially agree on pretty much everything.
Dr D Martin represents the means to one day holding these genocidal maniacs to account for their grotesque deeds.
Steve Kirsch is a leader in ensuring there are sufficient converts to tip the scales to enable that to happen.
He will tip nothing ... nobody reads SS ... nobody reads him....
The only way this tips is if so many get injured or die that it cannot be ignored ...
Well nobody is an overstatement :). Plus many of us share this stuff. However, the second sentence, is likely accurate :(, it does indeed seem that unless something is either reported sufficiently, or touches the majority of lives ... etc. :(
The people that read ss and his ss world have to disagree
Hear hear! I think steve has demonstrated that he can adjust his thinking and just because David Martin understands more than any person on earth about the present situation a friendly sharing would be much more productive than betting
nearly 6B are Rat Juiced... he is a drop in the ocean
Actually the true spirit of Debate is what is needed in this and every other issue at hand. Facts presented for and against with no pressure in what the debate will provide fairly and openly. Nothing hidden and no fraud allowed.
That's a nice platitude, but, what is needed is an effective strategy. Kirsch building numbers of converts, and Martin cementing the case against these tyrants is an effective strategy at this time.
Be very careful with your boy Dr. David Martin. He's got the eye of Osiris tattoed on his body, and he has a long career working with globalist institutions, and a web-site covered with masonic symbols. I would strongly suggest that you need independent confirmation for anything he says.
Agree with everything you say but Kirsch’s “bet you a million dollars” schtickos getting tiresome
I have also felt that it was good at 1st, but now ... is indeed getting old. :(
Yep. Find Tiffany Dover Steve.
Agreed
I have been threatened with a ban on the Kirsch SS for suggesting - multiple times - that instead of wasting time with debates that will never happen ...
He take a few bucks and hire a PI to find out what happened to Tiffany Dover.
I wonder about Steve...
Tiffany Dover? I'm not aware of who that is.
She was one of the first nurses to get the magic sauce injected into her live on tv.
She was being interviewed and saying how wonderful the magic suce was and then promptly collapsed whilst on camera live for all to see.
I personally dont think that it would make much difference to most people if this woman died or if she survivied, I find that most people are immune to critical thinking, they just roll up their sleeve because that is what they are told to do.
Thanks, and I remember the video now.
"... most people are immune to critical thinking..."
or allergic to it.
How to fight tyranny? Together with awareness & truthfulness. Infighting gets us little progress.
Yes, he’s naive about the true intent of the vax, but he’s mostly on our side. Pick your fights with those who are pro vax. You’re wasting valuable resources by attacking people like Kirsch. Get busy and call out the evil people that are involved in the population reduction game. They will be releasing their next bioweapon on us very soon.
For some, the shot is a fast kill bioweapon.
Very true, but on average it's slow.
If you think 2 to five years if not killed outright is slow, then you do not value life much. People are being tortured to death who do not die quickly. It is a horror that man kind has never seen before. The statistics say over 50% of the world is effected now and maybe this is an E.L.E. due to consuquences of shedding yet to be fully understood.
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I cannot agree more.
Compared to other chemical weapons such as Sarin gas or perhaps anthrax it is indeed "slow". The expression is a statement of fact and in no way diminishes the suffering of those where the results takes more time and in fact in many ways is even more horrific.
Yes, they will make more money from this kind of torture and receive more power from the human sacrifices to Satan- it is a very old cult. Dr. Martin- the theologian has a series on the Cults of Old and how they have infiltrated our world today and are running it by proxy. This is the perspective that Jesus pointed to in His ministry when He said to not allow any man to decieve you. They are not human- they are tares which look the same but have no Godly soul in them. All we see in the world can be ooked at through the lens of Godly - life giving or Ungodly- forceful stealing of souls mind and body for death eternal in hell. It is incumbent to visit the truth of Hell, as it is not taught in modern theology or churches. You have to study it thouroughly. The hell being produced on earth right now is fleeting by comparison. Thank you.
Do you believe the shot was designed by DOD specifically for that purpose in this episode?
DARPA is in charge of all materials and constructs of same. There are new reports being produced to evidence this right now- Good question.
Don't know.
By voting on this poll, am I guaranteed a corner cell in the gulag when Elon sends the voter roll over to the CIA?
By commenting on my substack your cell is already assigned.
Go vote!
Are you trying to reduce subscriptions? :)
I could care less about such things.
Surely it's I couldn't care less? Nor should you. Cheers
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/could-couldnt-care-less
Now look up the definition of 'vaccine' in Merriam...
PS You struck me as the more logical type.
Ask Steve why he's being so cheap and not spending some $$$ on finding TiffanyDover.. maybe he offers money for the debate because he knows he'll never have to spend it????
20k for a PI firm should get a thorough result
He'll ban you though if you push that line
It's kind like how I don't give a f789 about likes... if I got too many for a comment I'd start to think I was losing my touch
Haha, I voted, have a different handle for Twitter.
I denounce you and everything you stand for.
SS is allowed because it helps them ID the antivaxxers and keep an eye on everyone
Right? My exact same thought, several times a day when I am weighing in whether to hit the "tweet" button or not. And then I remember I have a kid (20s, but still)...
Like they're not going to come for you and your kid anyway. They have already come after you both, and you did nothing to warrant that!
And that is why I hit "tweet"...but at some point, I see unemployment in my future...
The time will come when others will need every healthy, fit, capable person. I don't think it would be unethical to bump up your hourly rate significantly when that time comes :)
I’m not happy because I have loved ones who took it and I worry about them!!! And the rest of humanity!! As to people not accepting the bioweapon claim ask yourself why they stopped the legal sale of ivermectin and HCQ? and insist on Remdesavir. Call it whatever. It wasn’t a true vax!! Why did it take so long for them to admit “It doesn’t stop transmission AND THEY STILL ADDED IT TO THE REQUIRED LIST FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN“ Sounds like genocide to me
I trust Kirsch. Attacking him is unprofitable. He knows he's wrong but must be disinterested. Wasting your energy on this effort is chasing the wrong target. Do something useful instead.
No one is attacking anyone.
This is a friendly poll for a friendly debate that won't occur for obvious reasons.
Don't get it twisted. We are all on the same side.
Thanks for the reply. We should be careful about internal dissent now. See https://robertyoho.substack.com/publish/post/92087748
Oh? So Steve trying to debate anyone with a pulse is attacking them too?
Vaccines in general lead to a myriad of chronic illnesses that the medical industry in turn gets quite wealthy treating.
Somebody sent me this one yesterday, when I really needed it. Cheers!
Remember this!!!!
Fable: DON'T ARGUE WITH DONKEYS
The donkey said to the tiger:
- "The grass is blue".
The tiger replied:
- "No, the grass is green."
The discussion heated up, and the two decided to submit him to arbitration, and for this they went before the lion, the King of the Jungle.
Already before reaching the forest clearing, where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey began to shout:
- "His Highness, is it true that the grass is blue?".
The lion replied:
- "True, the grass is blue."
The donkey hurried and continued:
- "The tiger disagrees with me and contradicts and annoys me, please punish him."
The king then declared:
- "The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence."
The donkey jumped cheerfully and went on his way, content and repeating:
- "The Grass Is Blue"...
The tiger accepted his punishment, but before he asked the lion:
- "Your Majesty, why have you punished me?, after all, the grass is green."
The lion replied:
- "In fact, the grass is green."
The tiger asked:
- "So why are you punishing me?".
The lion replied:
- "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green.
The punishment is because it is not possible for a brave and intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with a donkey, and on top of that come and bother me with that question."
The worst waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who does not care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on arguments that don't make sense...
There are people who, no matter how much evidence and evidence we present to them, are not in the capacity to understand, and others are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and all they want is to be right even if they are not.
When ignorance screams, intelligence is silent. Your peace and quiet are worth more.... *
I think this needs to be framed as a discussion, not as a "debate". We're kinda on the same team are we not?
It's like if I had a friend and he had a PoV (different slant) and I found some additional information, I would say, "hey friend, I have found some info you may be interested in". Since we are friends he would say, "yea lets get together and you can show me".
All of the above. This is a non-productive preoccupation of yours.
The Shot is definitely a slow kill bioweapon. Sorry, I don't have a twatter account. Maybe someone can vote for me, unless voting twice is not allowed on twitter like it is in national elections. Thanks to whomever used that term twatter, so I didn't have to use the actual name of that site. :)
I would vote yes, but Twitter is an Op and I'm not on it, so I can't vote. But thank you for all that you do.
The vax is dangerous for 2 reasons the spike which is toxic and the MRNA plaform which is toxic.
We need to get rid of both the MRNA platform and any vaccines based on spike.In fact even the virus spike envelope is toxic.No COVID vaccine can be safe .No MRNA or DNA vaccine is safe.
The makers, the regulators ,the people who pushed it ,whether medical or not, are guilty of crimes against humanity.The medical boards who silenced and deregistered the doctors (who treated COVID patients and vax injured patients and spoke out against the vax) have blood on their hands.
Those mandating the vax have blood on their hands.
But really those who spoke out are heroes .I include in that list Steve Kirsch.He's a good man ,he's on our side.Thank him for joining his voice to ours.Extend the hand of friendship.
Infighting will get us nowhere.
I ‘found’ Dr David E Martin about 12 weeks ago, and spent 2 weeks over the Christmas holidays watching dozens of his videos. He certainly possesses critically important information, facts and timelines that blow open when this whole shit show hatched and started manifesting. Am I better informed and more prescient regarding a portion of the future? YES. Do I regard Dr Martin an important voice in the rebellion, recovery and prosecution movement? YES. Do I agree that the COV injections should cease being referred to as vaccines? YES. Do I wish to see a debate between yourself, Dr Martin and Mr Kirsch? NO. Would I like to see a videoed discussion with transcript, between the three of you? YES. You are all thought leaders. You do not need to diminish one another by bumping heads.
Nope.
Steve is no longer naive. Hasn’t been for awhile. Unfortunately he WAS, until right after he and his family got the shots. Now he is making up for lost time. And he KNOWS his days are numbered.
You guys are really on the same side.
It would be great if we could all just stop the infighting and focus on taking down this monstrously evil cabal.
That would require actions of dispatching the heads of the snakes quickly. The other shoe planned is ready to be implemented soon it seems. They will never stop.
I “ woke up “ before the lockdown. It’s depressing and scary to see , how deep the corruption goes, once the scales fall of your eyes. I appreciate what Steve is doing and has done. I think he needs time to look into it more. I’m glad you have challenged him. A lot of people are listening to him that would just shut down their brains if he immediately called them bio weapons. Covid was & so is the “vaccine “.
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Thanks, news to me.