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CindyArizona's avatar

I’m unvaxxed and developed tinnitus about six months ago after a bout of the flu. I’m guessing it may have been COVID. I live at 6200ft elevation and if I drive up to around 7500ft it usually goes away and can stay away for weeks at a time. Two weeks ago, before reading this article, I started taking 18mg Ivermectin three times a week and it has greatly diminished. It’s now just a very low pitched hum which is quite tolerable. I’ll continue Ivermectin and see if it resolves completely. I also started taking large doses of liposomal Vitamin C and considering some IV Vit. C to see if that helps.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

Please keep us updated.

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CindyArizona's avatar

Will do. I’m convinced it’s some sort of inflammatory response lingering after the flu.

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Gas Axe's avatar

Unvaxxed and came down with tinnitus is 2019.

It went away then returned in 2021 after taking some right hooks to my head from some guys fist. Unfortunately it returned again and the cicada plays his harmonica in my left ear.

I find air pressure and elevation changes help. Higher elevation seems to make it go away. Sea level it play in the key of E 🎶.

A study group I was in near all the men suffered from this. All unvaxxed. We all had suffered a head injury at some point.

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Christopher's avatar

Personally I think it’s Wi-Fi and and emfs that cause tinnitus, I started to suffer in early 2000’s whan we first had routers installed in the house

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Curtis's avatar

It may exacerbate it, as well as many other afflictions, but I highly doubt it causes it. I've had it for over 20 years as well. (Meniere's Disease.) It has steadily gotten worse, during periods where I was exposed to very little emfs and through wearing Bluetooth hearing aids.

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Janneta's avatar

I write this in case it helps someone else.

Most cases of tinnitus is related to a hearing loss, specifically a high frequency one and that can be due to many causes, particularly noise exposure and ototoxins.

Saying that I did have a hearing loss in one ear a day or so after the AZ Covid vaccination. It was documented as low frequency sensorineural and that is a more unusual kind. It was only very obvious to me because I only had that one fully functioning ear anyway. I was tested quickly because I worked in a related field at the hospital. It recovered again and I thought no more about it.

Stupidly - I didn’t put 2+2 together and I had the second AZ 🫣 and the hearing in my only ear went down again about 2 days later, again low frequency sensorineural. Then the hearing in that ear fluctuated with a pattern similar to Menieres but there was no dizziness. I wondered whether it was inflammation, vascular/microclots, migraine, a cochlear hydrops, in combination with a structural ear abnormality (my Dad had been deaf in one ear too). When the hearing was bad the tinnitus was crazy and in both ears because the brain was trying to fill for the silence. A hearing device did help but only slightly because of the fluctuation.

I couldn’t fully determine a pattern of when it was worse but it seemed to be with a small amount of exertion (e.g. 1\2 hour of gentle work in the garden), in an evening after a meal or with stress (e.g. when my Mum died). Mornings were generally better but not always. Sometimes my hearing was so bad and distorted that my husband had to speak very slowly into a microphone he wore with a direct connection to a hearing aid I was wearing. Music was absolutely horrid and even when I thought my hearing was on a ‘good day’ I thought that I would never hear it again properly. Prior to my vaccination I considered my hearing to be pretty ‘normal’ in that ear except for a tiny high frequency loss likely due to noise exposure. I ended up retiring early but didn’t go down the route of “ill health”.

I went to see my GP to ask to try Betahistine because it is thought to help with Menieres and anecdotally (but no study done) I had found this to be true in hospital patients. He did a blood test which showed inflammation but he said that I also had inflammation previously before my first vaccination. I had that first blood test around the time of having shingles after a mystery illness which I now think was probably Covid itself.

Because of the inflammation mentioned I did an online course called ‘the inflammation equation’ and after that I started time restricted eating, supported the microbiome (each morning have lightly cooked 99% peeled/chopped apple with a little cinnamon and a few sultanas plus home made yoghurt and a few nuts), cut out gluten and seed oils, took vitamin D, tumeric, Nattokinase, bromelain. I kept a diary and I think these things lessened the severity. I didn’t try the Betahistine. I then tried a small 12 mg daily Ivermectin and it did seem to make a difference immediately. I am still taking these (one tablet of each per day) and feel fine on them. I have added Zinc recently. I make every meal from scratch now to reduce exposure to toxins and store things in glass.

My hearing has not fluctuated for about 2.5 years now, music sounds normal again and the tinnitus is not noticeable at all unless I listen for it. I can hear the tinnitus a little while I write this - but I have not heard it for a long time. As I understand it - if you pay attention to tinnitus it goes louder because you are telling the brain that it is an important sound and therefore the brain obliges by widening the pathways (turning up the gain) to provide the signal you have decided is important. It’s part of the fight or flight response.

So - in summary I think the vaccination did cause some damage to my hearing - perhaps in part because I had already had Covid. Other people may have had this issue but may not have noticed it immediately because of them having a second ear. The Ivermectin seems to have helped but I have used it in combination with other inflammation reducing strategies. I think these helped the tinnitus specifically by stabilizing my underlying hearing.

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Sanber's avatar

I too unvaxed and have tinnitus, not real bad just enough to be annoying. Going to start Iver and Genuine Essiac Tea see if it stops.

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grapewife's avatar

No one talks about this: I would say a large portion of my kids' Gen Z friends have had tinnitus since childhood (before COVID) as well as visual snow. They don't even complain because they think it's normal. It interferes with the pleasure of reading. I'm going to guess something else in the vax schedule, along with antibiotic overuse and other environmental factors, caused this cluster of symptoms. If you randomly ask 18 year olds, you'll be shocked at the symptoms they suffer. If ivermectin helps, it will be huge.

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

I have it and had no vax. I would try ivermectin but wonder as I have used ivermectin over the years and other supplements noted but no relief. Earbuds, in the past, have given me quite severe dizziness. I would welcome any advice as anyone with tinnitus surely would.

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Flatulus Maximus's avatar

I'm another one of those people who've had tinnitus for years before COVID. Most thinking at the time was that it was often related to damage from exposure to loud noise. There are certainly many examples of hearing loss by musicians. I've run chainsaws, lawn mowers, tractors, etc. for years without ear protection, so I did not question the theory. I saw an audiologist, and it was revealed that I've lost hearing in the 4K range. One suggestion that I have not pursued for economic reasons was to get a hearing aid programmed to compensate for that loss. Also, I started taking ivermectin 2 years ago; first as a COVID preventative, and more recently as part of a cancer protocol. Sadly, it has not improved my tinnitus at all. That's OK, as I haven't had even a sniffle in all that time. Further, I'm hoping that, along with many other elements, it will help save me from cancer.

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Bread and Circuses's avatar

I had tinnitus real bad when i was younger : was in a concert when i was maybe 20 years old and was hours right in front of the man-sized bass speaker. Doctors said 'it will never go away, your hearing is permanently destroyed' - but it did, after several years my hearing did slowly return to normal with no tinnitus.

These days i have tinnitus only if i have severe problems with my neck and trapezius muscles : now and then my neck and traps and so tense that even moving my head and looking left or right is near impossible ( neck/traps become literally like wood, there is no give in them ) that it takes long massage, extra strength heating liniment applied liberally and maybe sitting in a real hot sauna for a long time to be able to move my head again properly and then the tinnitus goes away too when the muscles relax.

( The advice from a doctor my former employer paid for workers was 'oh no dont use heat or sauna to loosen up muscles, use cold gel and cold packs' ... what ? Seriously what is up with these doctors, cold only makes it worse for me )

So yes, not all tinnitus is vax side effect / shedding related, even if a lot of it very likely is if someone just gets it out of nowhere with no reason.

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Judith M Brandon's avatar

I too have had tinnitus for most of my life. I was always right in front of the speakers at rock shows and we would laugh at how deaf we were the next day. I have yet to find anything to completely heal it. I wish there was more info on DMSO and tinnitus. Do you have any info?

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Chris W's avatar

1st off, there is mechanical tinnitus due to posture, cervical issues or neck ligament/muscle/nerve issues. Then there is the viral or chemical related side. Some might relate to your blood pressure, heart issues, etc.

you can research it but could be perceived in your head or even a sound someone can hear when putting their ear up to you.

Folks need to research it and not assume it's ONLY the vax or virus.

I've had it for years. it got way worse after covid at some point and I don't know why other than the virus itself or vax side effects. It's annoying as fuck as you never get silence. Having massive stress in your cervical and neck/trap area can trigger tightness everywhere and it just compounds on itself.

In my case I think it relates to everything including TECH NECK issues. Tons of kids are gonna have this issue who grow up on iPads/iPhones.

I knew a guy who got ear hearing issues right after the vax and that backs up Dr Makis experiences.

Look at root causes and systemically. Dont assume it's all due to virus unless you literally noticed it then or after a vax.

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Oziseekerbloke's avatar

Anecdotal I know, but a few years ago during a regular hearing aid checkup/adjustment, I asked my audiologist, who also is the big boss for our state, had he noticed an uptick in referrals? Being already onside re the jabby thing, he gave me the simple one word reply; "Yes!" then added, "A lot."

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Eddie Earl's avatar

VIRX IVM code not working?

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

Use code: COLUMBUS20

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Eddie Earl's avatar

thx - just used 2sgpet for 10% - i'll reach out

keep up the great work!

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erin's avatar

I wonder if anyone ever talked to one of the tribes still living without technology about tinnitus. Do they have it? How prevalent is it? I read somewhere that it was reported by the old doctors way back before our world went nuts, but never saw a reference.

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Eccentrik's avatar

this seems to be one of those 'miracle' remedies

as I'm sure many are already aware, the cancer-killing potential is pretty amazing too...

https://eccentrik.substack.com/p/horse-paste-a-major-cancer-killer?r=8ypo0

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