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Rob Polans's avatar

They spent decades in the shadows so to speak, getting their ducks in a row. That's how. How do we fight back? First and nobody seems to grasp this. Ignore them and yes do not comply. Also do not pay taxes, will you fold? I can't say. I can say that if you don't if everybody doesn't, you'll see the most pathetic regime on its knees. Simple attrition. Then you hit it with all that you have.

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The only problem with that is that people have been so neutered that they'll never resist to that extent voluntarily. I mean consider, people wore masks, despite knowing (or at least largely suspecting) that it was meaningless or even harmful. Why? For fear of a confrontation. Almost everyone I know was in that category.

The odds of gettting a critical mass to not pay taxes are zero.

How do we fight back? Complete system-wide debt forgiveness. That eliminates 99% of their control on the spot.

Will it happen? Incredibly unlikely. Why not? Because the difference makers are too greedy to let go of what they've gained to date throughout their lives and they have no idea what's driving this modern-day ideological Titanic. (or perhaps the Olympic) Someone I'm very close to, a successful and estalished financial industry analyst, has no idea about the Federal Reserve to any relevant extent. That's reprehensible for someone in his position, yet entirely understandable. If the truth be told, they wouldn't have the gatekeepers there in the financial realm. (Law, medicine, "entertainment", media, etc. otherwise) He argues constantly with me and thinks I'm nuts. [shrug]

I liken the entire thing to the method that they use to trap and capture monkeys. They take a calabash or box with a hole cut into it. Inside the box they put peanuts/fruit/etc., food. The monkeys can reach into the hole easily, but with a fist full of goods, they cannot get their hand back out. They'll sit there and be captured as a result. It's fascinating.

We're just as greedy, most of those with means/wealth/investments/pensions/etc. They'll just as easily make the swap to CBDCs as they wore masks.

Remember, all it takes is some to make the swap, that will likely get others to, and a certain critical mass there as well is all that it will take. Why wouldn't it.

Polls already reveal approximately 50% of the populations switching voluntarily. Not sure what happens regarding myself, I suppose I'll end up starving to death. Oh well.

Time to ante-up on those stated religious/ideological beliefs.

Right now we're also too mired down in "getting revenge" for "Covid" for our own good. The rest of our demise is being perpetrated while we're mentally tied up with that.

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Dirty Peasant's avatar

You are pretty spot on! Though I think most of these problems will sort themself out as the system collapses. Which will be pretty "inconvenient" for all parties. I have found this comment on zerohedge about 12 years ago, and it sums up whats going on very well, most of it has come true in the meantime.

From an Unknown Author:

тАЬThese fuckers are going to print hard enough to wake the dead. TheyтАЩll print like moтАЩfos, print like mad men, print like fly pimps. Print until their eyes bleed.

They will print via the swaps, via bank bailouts and mergers, via fixed treasury yields, via real honest-to-God negative interest rates, via loans to banks on no collateral, via payroll tax reductions, and in the end via actual fiat paper instruments which they might very well drop in bails from actual mutherfucking helicopters.

They will not give two figs what anyone thinks.

Here is why:

Because this is the Goddamned end of it my friend. There is no accounting beyond this point. There will be no history of it. No one to take notes of rates of exchange, or of the graft and violence, nobody to worry about the deficit or the GDP or the national debt of any nation large or small under the blazing Goddamned sun.

End. Of. It. Does anyone bitch about how Rome totally debased their coinage at the end? Hell no. But whoever did it had enough to hand, and grabbed some land with a nice vineyard, and sat back and waited for the Middle Ages to start 700 years further on.

And thatтАЩs what a singularity is about. Anything that passes through is stripped of all meaning. Nothing we think is important now will remain so beyond the event horizon. Nobody will remember, nobody will write about it, nobody will be held to any standard. Ever for evar.

So yeah, theyтАЩll print like the mad crazed terrorists they are. Because they have nothing to lose, and maybe something to gain. Maybe a dollar. Maybe a day. Maybe a slim chance to escape with some of the loot. Whatever the fucking advantage they see in it, for themselves and their elite crap wanking buddies, they will full-on-full-time do it to their advantage.

Watch for it, Dawg. ItтАЩs totally on this time, on like Donkey Kong. And when the dust settles in a generation hence, itтАЩs going to have become another unbelievable episode among the ages of men.тАЭ

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37's avatar

LOL, I think that there are better ways he could have written all that. I hear his anger and get his point.

I distinctly recall during that time, the "Too Big to Fail" time, telling people that we need to let it fail if we're to have any hope. But much like subsequent to the contrived false-flag of 9-11, we traded our security, financial at that time, geographical/logistical at 9-11, for "security," which we will obviously never see, other than by the Global Government's definition, which is anything but in our own interests.

Had we allowed the Central Banking System take that hit back then, we wouldn't be where we are today. We made our choices and thereby kicked that can, then a 5-gallon pail, down the road, where today it is a chock-full tanker truck ready to be sparked into oblivion, taking everything with it into a societal black hole of course.

Generally speaking, people do what the media tells them. There are far too few people looking into things for themselves. Why doctors for example, have any credibility whatsoever anymore is beyond me and astonishing. ... as merely one example.

The author of that that you cited is correct in one sense, the level of satanic activity around the world, ubiquitously, is remarkable to understate it. CERN, the Molech symbolism is rampant in "entertainment" (both movies/TV/music/etc.), politics and even what passes for "education," and so much more. It would seem that Rev. 20:7-9 is unfolding right before our eyes and yet so many, particularly people claiming to be followers of Christ, cannot see it. That makes Luke 18:8 come to life for me.

Here's the thing, what's going on today contrasted with history is different because of technology. The technology now exists to, as that little Babylonian Talmudist weasel Harari, Schwab's sniveling littel sidekick's statements indicate, to forever alter the human genome and usher us into transhumanism, for those that allow it, and turn us into, as Harari spews, "hackable" beings.

At the end of the day this has occurred as a direct result of us having forsaken God. Had we abided by His ways, we wouldn't be here. Plain and simple.

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Dirty Peasant's avatar

I basically agree with everything you said. Funnily enough, I'm not much of a religious person, but I have realized a while ago, that there is definitely a spiritual battle going on, and good and evil are real.

Here is how I see the big picture after a lot of research and contemplation: The worldwide debt level reached a level of total saturation. There is nowhere to (productively) expand this giant bubble anymore. It is at least 110 year old, but one could argue that it has been growing for 3 centuries now.

Debt is also fundamentally just a word for describing the relationship between people. Owner and slave, to put it crudely. I have no illusion, in this current paradigm, anybody who is not living off from some kind of money printing (parasitism) like a bankster or politician is basically a slave (including myself).

Now, the owners (parasites) of this system are trying to desperately keep and increase their power. Their power relies on the expansion of credit. But since the system is already choking on credit (it peaked around 2005 actually), it doesn't matter how much they print, real productivity will not come out of it. The (world) economy is basically is getting hollowed out, while trying to put up an image of development, but almost all of the popular fads like Tesla, "green energy", "4h industrial revolution", Chinese ghost cities etc. are unproductive scams.

So they are trying to keep their slice, while the whole pie is shrinking. In order to do that that they need to centralize and control more and more things, down to the level of the very basic aspects of life (like what the slaves are allowed to eat). But this is increasingly costly, and getting exponentially more costly as the real economy shrinks under the weigh of the debt load.

I don't worry much about their super advanced technologies of total control, like the CBDC's, 5g surveillance, new crazy vaxx types, robots etc. That all relies on a large capital base, with very complex supply chains, that are already in the process of collapse.

There also exist a large force of decentralization by the actions of (good) individuals, who are trying to find a way to create real, independent productivity in their own small way. Usually not even realizing what they are doing. This is good, since our whole capital structure needs to be completely reorganized to be able to create real productivity again.

So, there it is. This is a giant battle of wills, where the bad guys have no hope to win in the end, because their push for centralization will become so costly and absurd (not only in terms of money but also political capital, policing etc.), that the whole thing will fall apart eventually. The sad part is, that they will not give up trying anyways, and they will wreak unimaginable destruction in the mean time.

I think it will be similar how the Soviet Union or the Roman Empire collapsed, but much uglier, and even more chaotic, major wars, civil wars are also on the table. In a worst case scenario we might enter sort of a "dark age", where most of current technologies and civilizational developments will go to oblivion, and only rediscovered after hundreds of years.

We are living in interesting times.

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37's avatar

You said a mouthful there and touched upon a number of salient themes. Remember tho, there's a huge background involved that renders everything much more complex than most realize, and which would take forever to cover here for instance.

There is also some narrative driven stuff that seems to underly peoples' thinking that simply doesn't apply to what's going on. I'll focus on one of those things.

You said this ...

"Their power relies on the expansion of credit. But since the system is already choking on credit (it peaked around 2005 actually), it doesn't matter how much they print, real productivity will not come out of it."

I completely agree and then some. It did peak and had we let "Too Big" actually fail, instead of agreeing that it was "Too Big to Fail," (for them, not for us BTW, that's the dirty-little secret), then we wouldn't be where we are today.

Having said that, had a person with the government's financial credentials walked into a bank in 1990 and asked for a loan using the same application principles that apply to individuals, it'd have been laughed out of the bank.

A friend of mine is a very astute economist by both education as well as experience, and incredibly knowledgeable about history.

What he's missing however is that the principles of economics only work in open systems. We are approaching a CLOSED global system. I'll use a couple of analogies to illustrate.

Consider a system of slavery as we define it historically in our country, dating back to the 1800s. The reason why that fell and slaves were freed was because of the advancement of technologies and the associated breachings of other societal norms or narratives that ultimately relinquished the bonds of that slavery, at least by that definition.

I'll get to the connection in a second, but the other analogy that I like to use is that of East Germany. East Germany and its economy fell beause there was a "West" to contrast it with. That East German economic system could not survive much less thrive amidst other competing economies in the world.

But today with the advancement of a singular Global Economy, or New World Order replete with its single economic (Company Store type) method of control, there wouldn't be anything to unseat it. IOW, consider the Company Store model in a world where The Company owned EVERYTHING. ... which would included governments, courts, enforcement arms of financial and societal varieties, media, etc. Orwell's 1984 e.g.

There would be nothing to bring that system to its knees. Money/economics would be worthless. Debt would be insignificant. ... which is where we are standing on the precipice of right now as we speak.

At that point, it becomes less a true economic system, than one of rigid control. Toe the line or suffer the consequences. Get too far out of line and you'll be dispatched without much thought.

Much like East Germany, even those working for the STASI didn't live high off the hog, they perhaps got paid a bit more and had access to a few, literally a few, additional things, but for the most part if you didn't do what they told you there were consequences. The system of rewards and compensation for hard work did not exist as we know it.

THAT'S where we are headed globally. So yes, the Global Elites realize fully that in some semblance of an economy with some [seemingly] normal checks-and-balances, the current model cannot be sustained. Which is why they have their new model based upon CBDCs, and ultimately complete and total control over every human being everywhere within that system, which would be all of the modernized world.

THE MISTAKE that people make is in trying to mentally visualize how our current system transitions and integrates with that so that it's seemless. THE REALITY is that it won't. There will be no "transition" other than for appearances or optics as is the current vernacular.

THAT new system will entirely REPLACE the existing system, and everyone's wealth will either be stripped directly for one of many looming "reasons" all related to our future survival (just turn on the Lobotomy Box to "news" to see which ones), OR we will be prohibited from spending what we think we now have as we please.

Many people seem to think that this cannot be done, but it's already being done in many respects and aspects today in every westernized nation. For example, in many states one cannot simply walk in and buy a pistol. Try that in NY State without a handgun permit. Won't happen. That's merely one example. China has probably the most extensive rollout of something like that of anywhere.

This is far different than the Roman Empire or the Soviet Union collapsing. The latter was part of their plan, that of the Babylonian Talmudists, who destroyed and demoralized Christian Russia first. The west today is worse than the former Soviet Union, we're simply too steeped in our own demoralized juices that we fail to realize it.

Yuri Bezmenov said plainly that the ultimate fruit of a demoralized population is that you can take them and show them the truth, visibly, and they'll still refuse to believe it. That today represents a good 80% of the American population, again, at least, and in one form or another.

The narratives that we've been trained like circus seals to regurgitate, hold dear, and respond do one way or another are the death of us.

Another thing that you said was about not being a religious person. What I find to be interesting is that many people say that, but then refer to things as being demonic or satanic. Well, one cannot have that without having God first. The two are in tandem.

There's a book called The Invisible War by Donald Grey Barnhouse, and in it there's a chapter (or a pairing of chapters) titled "Two Wills." It's very interesting and helps explain the spiritual battle that's been raging for millenia and which appears to be coming to a culmination soon. Check it out if you can find a pdf of that book. It's worth the read even if you do not believe in God.

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Rob Polans's avatar

I think you're right. Different reasons, but that's irrelevant. The ones still with masks I already wrote off. I know of 7 in the whole country who don't pay taxes. The debt forgiveness is where we differ just a little. WE forgive those debts because WE didn't make them. THAT problem is solved. The Fed is a hoax, it makes money out of thin air.

With the monkey example and the rest you are thinking almost in a sheep way. I think along military terms. We have a guerilla war, probably best as 6-man squads, but many. We do have at least about 4 million. More probably if I look. Revenge is too schoolyard to accomplish anything. Have an objective, sight it, then acquire it. Sounds easy but in 44 years it has never been.

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37's avatar

I wasn't referring to anyone still wearing masks, I was referring to how many wore them during the hysteria part. One never touched my face, ever. I simply carried on as if nothing was going on, and nothing was, other than in peoples' minds. But I was fully aware of the who/why/what of it all too. Hardly anyone else was because they lacked the knowledge of who's behind this all and how and why they're organized as they are, all but invisibly to most despite the blatant giveaways.

As to the monkey example, don't preach it to me, preach it to those that are wealthy or have substantial money tied up in that system otherwise.

Think about it.

For years these people have seen wealth accrue in varying accounts to their benefit: investments/savings/pensions/retirement (401k/IRA)/etc.

These people are generally clueless as to why the system that they even place faith in exists much less that it's operated and literally owned by satanists, put another way, anti-Christians, put another way, antichrists. Yet, even as supposed Christians, not only do they partake of it, but they often make their money from those antichrist institutions.

Now you're expecting them to let it all go? I'm not sure you understand the situation at hand. Money, aka Mammon, IS their god!!!

Jesus said in Matt. 6:24 and Luke 16:13 that serving both God and mammon are mutually exclusive. It's one or the other. Sadly they've chosen wrongly and that choice leads them to hell despite any rhetoric to the contrary as sponsored by our heretical and desolate 501(c) social clubs that we call churches throughout our westernized world these days.

The ones that you need to reach in your scenario do not have eyes to see with nor ears to hear with.

Not sure what you mean by 6-man squads, other than the literal. As to the 4 million, not nearly enough to move the needle if I understand you correctly.

As well, make no mistake, this next round of a a fear feast, expect it to be shock-and-awe. There's no way that they even try to use something benign again that cannot easily be seen and validated by the masses. Whatever it is will be far more overt.

Fear is an incredible motivator.

As for me, I must obey God, not man, at least to the extent that I see it clearly and can make the distinctions. One of my college professors, an Air Force pilot, upon my asking him whether he had a parachute with him on his missions, he said no, that he vowed that if ever he'd have gotten shot down, he'd be content to ride the biggest piece down.

So it is with me, if for some reason I'm errant upon my death, I suppose I'll find out at that time. In the meantime, my bowing to the antichrist, ... I'd rather suffer death.

This life is brief, eternity is long. This world is so twisted and contorted against anything that God would have. IMO, globally, and as a whole, we will surpass the state that Sodom was in upon its destruction, whereby it was said that the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly.

Yuri Bezmenov was correct nearly 40 years ago, the demoralization of the American people and by association people in the westernized nations, was all but complete, and it has continued for nearly another half-century.

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Rob Polans's avatar

I've been at this for years, I know very well by now that people will have to be pushed beyond their precipices, then maybe they'll fight back. The masks and all that, I'm ex CIA and can recognize a psyop for what it is. Most didn't or couldn't.

I know it will be shock and awe to extents we haven't seen before. It's funny, in my oath I pledged not to shoot civilians, besides it being immoral, it's anti-Constitutional. They have a different understanding. A quote from my friend John an ex-Marine much like myself. "This time we'll have to shoot our way out." He doesn't comprehend the evil that we face yet, but that's fine. He is prepared. Not for the greys or lizards, but the people is good enough.

An aside: have you felt something strange in the last 72 hours? I know one place fell.

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37's avatar

You referring to France?

If so, here's a very interesting video on that. While watching, keep in mind that it's ALL contrived. The only reason we have wars is because the Central Banking Cabal wants and needs them to retain their power and indebt the world.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PUGtiHuaCcUB/

It's ALL orchestrated!

Fighting back won't accomplish anything. To the contrary, it feeds into their hands. They can eliminiate whom they want to under the auspices of war/civil-unrest.

The solution is simple, global debt forgiveness, a "Jubilee Year" if you will. The Central Banking Cabal thrives and exists predicated upon debt. Eliminate it and their power vaporizes like paper mache toy at ground zero of a nuclear blast.

But again, that won't ever happen? Why not? Because we've become so demoralized, even as supposed "Christians," that we now worship mammon not God, and therefore we've screwed ourselves.

As to the Oaths taken, to start, most just say the words and have no idea what they're saying, again, part of that demoralization.

The other part of that demoralization takes no offense to outright lying, deception, and a lack of integrity.

The proponents of our marvelous "Judeo-Christian" value system are ignorant as to the FACT that the "Judeo" part of that is Babylonian Talmudism, which is by its very nature anti-Christ. So in short, it's like saying anti-Christ/Christ values, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

But again, that is part and parcel, a large part and parcel, of our demoralization, upon which MORALS are vacated, hence the term as such, with the Babylonian Talmudist part of it leading the way. Hence why they are like that. Out society is like an ouroboros, it is in the process of eating itself, nearly complete in that process.

People see what they want to see however due to heretical teachings by people planted by their spiritual enemies.

Oh well, we make our own choices, but reading Biblical history, so much makes so much more sense in light of that.

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Rob Polans's avatar

It wasn't France. I think one of the Scandinavian countries. When I stop to think about it we pretty much agree. I'm just trying to move forward with what I still have.

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France, no I'd sort of written them off as lost. I'm still wary of a Jubilee, but they wracked up the $30 trillion. So let them pay it. On that we can agree. And yes, mostly it is orchestrated. The mass shootings for example. I worked with the guy who today puts out the newsletter Mad Patriot (I forgot which name we were using then) the Parkland school, Pulse nightclub, first Las Vegas shooting, Waco Walmart shooting all staged by the left. And some tidbits they wanted us not to print (we said screw that) the shooters were mentally unbalanced muslims in each case but the Waco one, that I suspect was Antifa.

The Jubilee that you want can happen, it seems all want it to.

If you noticed, everyone said their oaths verbally, here is the but. It seems the entire regime hasn't signed :

Many Politicians and government appointees jobs at risk for not signing Oath of Office to protect the Constitution:

On Friday, a bunch of politicians and appointees had been NOTIFIED that their documentation and certification for taking the Oath of Office тАж (which is REQUIRED тАж for all office holders, whether they are elected or appointed)тАж. Was NOT on filed.

They had been FOIA-ed and could not produce those documents.

There might be a ceremonial taking of the Oath when a person takes office, but it MUST be followed up with a signed and notarized written Oath that is FILED correctly.

The penalty for violating the Oath of Office is perjury.

FACT: Signing these documents is MANDATORY.

FACT: They must certify their oath BEFORE they begin the duties of their office.

And the signed document must be WitnessedтАж. By the Notary who puts their seal on itтАж and filed correctly

People like the head of the CDC, and Secretary of the Army, etc. need that signed Oath.

The breaking news also said that Vice President Kamala Harris did not certify and file her Oath of Office.

She was put on NOTICE in the last 48 hoursтАж. That she has 10 days to get that done, she is out of office.

I have been going over this with other people in the legal arena.

The reality isтАж anything these uncertified people have done up until that documentation is filed correctlyтАжis NOT LEGAL.

Mon. 17 April Ann Vandersteel: Do we have Public servants in office right now acting as тАШelected officialsтАЩ without swearing allegiance to the Constitution? Immediately terminate positions for those who cannot produce an affidavit swearing allegiance to the Constitution: https://twitter.com/annvandersteel/status/1646654916532789248

For those individuals who have failed or refused to produce an affidavit as required by 5 U.S. Code, Section 3332, demand that those persons provide the U.S. Attorney and this Court with the compulsory affidavit within ten (10) days. For those individuals who do not produce the 5 U.S. Code, Section 3332 affidavit within ten (10) days as described above; as well as, those who have admitted they do not possess the requested affidavit and those who have produced defective affidavits:

a. Immediately terminate their appointments or positions;

b. Render all official acts, bills, laws, regulations, or any official actions whatsoever, including the appointment of any subordinates void ab initio and;

c. Replace and restore all proper, former office holders until competent replacements can be lawfully appointed.

A Writ of Quo Warranto [Document shown тАУ Case Number 2023] to the U.S. Attorney in the District of ColumbiaтАжPetitioner-In Re: LISA MCGEEтАжstating that тАШNumerous Oaths of Office CANNOT be found on file for many of our federal officials including:

You can see, the entire regime is really out just look at the timeline.

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37's avatar

You missed the Boston Bombing and Sandy Hook, both, like the others perpetrated by our own feds, using "drills" and crisis actors. That's why several of them appear in three or more of them.

The Space Shuttle Challenger deaths also faked. As you no doubt realize, all of the moon landings, not to mention Mars, have all been faked bullshit.

Don't take this disrespectfully, but I had to laugh when you wrote this;

"The penalty for violating the Oath of Office is perjury."

There's a book called "Three Felonies a Day" written by Harvey Silvergate, which demonstrates how there are so many laws that people arbitrarily break three felony laws per day. We can argue the nuances, but there are so many laws on the books that absolutely no one knows what they are.

Consider, someone's in court for "violating a law," but the judge has to spend a significant amount of time in chambers looking up the law sometimes. How TF are people supposed to know if the judge has to spend court time looking it up?

Cops don't even know the laws other than the simple things like speeding, which are infractions, not crimes.

There's no accountability for the government employees and everyone else working for the government in one or more forms, insofar as that goes. Lying has also become the order of the day as part of our new normality.

"The Jubilee that you want can happen, it seems all want it to."

I don't agree with that. I'm not even sure most know what it even is. Anyone with money would have to relinquish any claims on their wealth, and for the reasons I've cited it won't happen. Governments, our anti-christian corporations, and any other entity or person whose power depends upon that very wealth and Company Store system of Central Banking currency isn't going to support it either.

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Rob Polans's avatar

I know, it seemed odd to me too, I just copy/pasted that the penalty was perjury it should be treason. And all the supposed spaceflights (well NASA does mean deceive) 9/11, and the rest all staged, the Rogue Eternal Militia is pretty steamed about that.

Simply ask, most seem to want a jubilee. I've known what it was for countless years, didn't like it and was warned against it by economists, but that's irrelevant. The typical man on the street seems to like the idea. Not to relinquish claims, only the debt. That was why I thought that it sounded too easy. Central Banks are slowly failing, you do not hear anything MSM never reports its failures.

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37's avatar

You seem to be tapping a completely different group of people that I bump into. Most of the people that I know, upon mentioning a Jubilee of sorts, they have no idea what it is, much less indicate that they want it.

As to the Central Banks, they failed decades ago. It was NEVER about sustaining an honest banking/currency system, it was ALWAYS about stealing and robbing the entire world blind.

... "that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

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Rob Polans's avatar

Probably, I don't waste my time with fatalists. The ones who are into the doom and gloom that CNN is so known for.

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