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Stan Mrak's avatar

Let's not fool ourselves... Putin has all the cards and knows how to play them. Trump has an empty hand and no leverage whatsoever, but he remains ignorant of these facts because his people are telling him that the war is a stalemate! LOL.

The war is over, and Russia has won. Putin could just give us the middle finger and take whatever he wants, but he's very shrewd and will play the circumstances to his advantage. He might find a way to give Trump an apparent "win" of some kind in the negotiations, and thus make it easier for Trump to give more concessions to Russia than the other players would like.

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Tirion's avatar

It was very interesting that "The Daily Mail" reported a lip reader claiming that, on the tarmac at arrival, Putin said to Trump, "I am here to help you." Putin putting the blame on Biden, despite Trump having started arming and training the Ukrainians from the beginning of his first administration in 2017, would fit right in with that.

To me, it's all theater, all the time. One big photo op.

I wonder how much time Putin and Trump actually spent talking about ending the war, and how much time they spent discussing re-construction contracts, oil and gas and other financial interests?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15005023/trump-putin-alaska-russia-ukraine-deal-lip-reader.html

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Stan Mrak's avatar

Trump is going to need Putin's help to get out of this mess looking good, and Putin knows it. Putin also knows that Russia can take whatever they need, they don't need Trump. They also seem to want to give the world a positive impression of themselves as a responsible global nation, not a military threat (like the US). Trump has proven himself to be easily coerced, or manipulated, by others. He can be played, and Putin, I think, may be masterful at this. So far, the Russians have bent over backwards to be polite when confounded by our ignorance and naivete. They're playing the long game.

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Tirion's avatar

🎯

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Franklyn K. Coombs's avatar

Trump does NOT have an "empty hand." He has a vibrant USA economy! It is Putin who needs an economy, and he's trying to steal Ukraine's??

The Russian "Rubal" is almost worthless on the international exchange.

You're right - the "war is over." RUSSIA LOST!

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Stan Mrak's avatar

Economics doesn't win wars - military might does. And Ukraine/NATO is woefully behind in every category... boots on the ground, drones, missiles, experience, manufacturing capability, aerial offense and defense, surveillance, you name it. Russia hasn't let the sanctions stop their GDP from growing, and now their army is up to 1.8 million troops, trained and experienced. Ukraine is opening their recruiting up to 14- and 60-year-olds, so you know they're desperately short of manpower.

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Russell Spaur's avatar

If we had a vibrant economy we would not be deficit spending to the tune of 2 trillion.

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Tirion's avatar

You need to know for your own good: you're completely mistaken/deluded/wrong. I don't know where you get your "facts" from; but they're all propaganda, lies and nonsense.

EDIT: OIC, you're a fiction writer. Now it makes more sense!

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Occam's avatar

But don't forget that without US weapons and ISR (satellite targeting data for missiles, etc.), Ukraine would no longer be able to fight and the war would be effectively over.

So, while he might say the right things, the US is responsible for this war. It WAS responsible and CONTINUES to be responsible. All his rhetoric doesn't change this.

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Double Mc's avatar

Wouldn't it be something if Hillary really did have to eat crow and nominate Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize like she said she would? Man oh man, that would be worth watching.

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Albert's avatar

The 'Nobility' in charge of world events are pushing to create a Euro Zone Army to invade Russia...where else did you think the $700-$800 billion they announced to spend supporting Ukraine comes from? We are up against the 'old guard' and a hierarchy few understand exists.

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

Which nobility? Good way to put it, and I do understand who you mean, if you mean the same old as I know.

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Albert's avatar

How far back do you want to go? The Balfour declaration honors an agreement between the Roman's and the Sasanian Empire according to my research as an example of something still intact today...the point is there exists an overarching control apparatus that does something here, something there, all compartmentalized as they remain hidden working towards a common goal...while 'land use' may be permitted to a 'victor' after a conflict (usually fomented to attain a specific goal) land ownership ( talking nations and countries here) is maintained thru families and bloodlines..it's all about business at that level...and maintaining control of said businesses....now what those businesses are about and from where the marching orders originate is another topic...let's just say the priest class always held the knowledge throughout history.

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

I go back to the Reformation and even to the Dark Ages because that is where all originates. Then it is a march of power greed that brings all to the details of history meant to gain their desires of complete control. It has been hidden because they were outlawed back in the late 1700's to the early 1800's. everyone knew they were very evil, even our USA presidents. Not common knowledge anymore as history is not taught anymore. I read a quote that said this man/company rules the whole world and no one knows ......and this was from the early 20th century. The priest class, mmmm never heard it put that way but it's good. Revelation 17 and 18. 18:8 is their destruction, when nations know/realize.

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Albert's avatar

While I agree to the history you've outlined I tend to support a more esoteric view as to where the 'orders from headquarters' originate to this very day. It ties in the transgender, trans-human, DNA manipulation, gene splicing and gain of function sciences to usurp God's creation in the name of expanding human reach into space...even if it means becoming something other than human. The 'people' implementing these ideas into our reality have no need for money, more riches, or even power as they too are slaves to a higher power. Now, we are getting into the weeds!

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

The bible is the place to start. It takes a lot of study to understand the truth. The Reformers did the work of studying the bible, the prophecies and history. God is sovereign and in control. I find it amazing how arrogant the devil is in the face of God Almighty. This will all be destroyed , Revelation 18:8, but likely not before some massive damage. Today is the day to get right with God and to know Jesus. Read and study the bible!!

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Occam's avatar

The EU has zero intention to fight Russia on the battlefield. Russia at this point, would essentially destroy the EU in a weekend.

Which is probably why they talk shit so much about Russia. When Ukraine falls, the EU has no recourse.

Except for the handful of other countries/territories they are prepping to "let's you and him fight" Russia.

The EU can't be so stupid as to not know Russia's true capabilities.

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Stan Mrak's avatar

It's called PDS - Putin Derangement Syndrome. Works just like TDS.

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Albert's avatar

Just watch what happens by 2030 and 2050 cause I won't be here for that last date! lol.....buckle up, butter cup! :)

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Dorota's avatar

🎯

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

Sounds right. Hope things go well for Trump and Putin in this so that the NWO/global plans continue to fail and fall apart!!!! A few arrests of the big deal global crooks would really help.

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

So, are you a Liberal Democrat? Or are you one who wants USA sovereignty? I only want peace and the exposure of the NWO/global devils and their demise. Hopefully the enemies of nations will soon be exposed and annihilated. Rev18:8.

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Occam's avatar

Yup. Question his motives or tactics and you're automatically a TDS-afflicted liberal.

It matters HOW you do something, and his methods can be a bit questionable.

At this point, these people should just buy jerseys and put Trump's name on the back, they're such fanboys.

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

TDS much? I do not look to any man or politician for truth or peace. I base all my faith on God and trust Him, His word. He is sovereign and uses whom he will for His glory and His ends. Trump is far better than the global pedo Biden and Harris or the first "black" president.

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Franklyn K. Coombs's avatar

The only part I agree with is "the global PEDO Biden and Harris or the first "black" president."

I get lost in all the incense fumes wafting from your thurible??????

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

That is unfortunate because all answers and truth lie with Him, thee maker of all things and sovereign over all.

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

I do not back the demise of our country. I am for the building of our country. I am for getting rid of the Demonrat traitors and bringing the constitution forward and hoping that the Christian faith endures these hard and evil times. Now, no more comments needed. You might be delusional.

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Tirion's avatar

This is interesting from CAF/Solari:

"The Fast-Approaching Digital Control Grid"

https://solari.com/the-fast-approaching-digital-control-grid-a-checklist-of-trump-administration-actions-to-date/

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Ileana's avatar

Yep.Trump is one of them.All presidents are selected not elected.Too bad people are deep in cognitive dissonance and truth is too hurtful for them.Psychology studies show like 80% of them are.Pretty sad for the rest of us.😕

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LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

LOL

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Rich Liebman's avatar

CONSERVATIVE TREEHOUSE is a great source!

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Neil Pryke's avatar

Trump plays games...

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jean's avatar

The consequential folks will not face consequences while the inconsequential folks will bear the burden of the consequences. Did I miss anything?

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Andrea's avatar

Can we not get Petmectin delivery to New Zealand anymore?

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Prior to the war, was there not cleansing of Russians through civil war in some regions. Who funded the civil war and why? Wasn't it genocide, just like what is happening in Gaza? Have I got it wrong?

Isn't there a underlying push to control mineral rights in Ukraine just like in Indonesia which is managed by Freeport McMoran?

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