Is hcq or ivermectin still working? This is the worst of all possible results from the mass vaxx...mareks disease for humans. We were afraid of this. Does Geert know?
Is hcq or ivermectin still working? This is the worst of all possible results from the mass vaxx...mareks disease for humans. We were afraid of this. Does Geert know?
"The ongoing mass vaccination campaigns must immediately be abrogated because the vaccines fail to block viral transmission and their large-scale use during a pandemic of more infectious variants will inevitably lead to vaccine resistance of circulating Sars-CoV-2 variants. Instead, mass chemoprophylaxis campaigns should be conducted at regular intervals to reduce viral infectious pressure and transmission and prevent more infectious viral variants from fueling the breeding and dominant propagation of more infectious, vaccine-resistant variants."
I'm sure he did also say that you wouldn't want to use chemoprophylaxis continually because, presumably, at some stage the virus could evolve to overcome that as well. Maybe it was on Brett Weinstein, not sure. It does make sense from an evolutionary biology perspective though.
Yes thanks I knew he said this. But he was hopeful that natural immunity would protect a lot of the unvaxxed....it doesn't appear to be doing so with this new variant...which is why I'm asking....because it is infecting the naturally immune too. And this is the worst of all possible worlds...
I would suspect the good news is that not enough people have been using HCQ or IVM at a population level to be a problem for now. I'm going to guess it will still work as long as the way the virus still operates is the same.
I personally don't like the idea of using IVM as prophylaxis for this very reason, so I just take zinc and quercetin intermittently and of course Vit C and D.
I will tell you I am not takig weekly tests anymore or masking for work. If they try that sxxt again, I retire. No more Covid theatre. I work with kids. Most of them have already had covid.
Jumping into the conversation: I am 100% with you on avoiding IVM for prophylaxis. Vitamins D and C + zinc work with our own mucosal immune system, minimize oxidative stress damage and support enzymatic processes. Topical use of Povidone-iodine or hydrogen peroxide seem to kill the virus in the nose, mouth and throat by disruption of the outer membrane of the bug, which should not lead to development of resistance. N-cetylpyridinium chloride (тАЬScopeтАЭ) also disrupts the virus outer shell.
Geert's last major posting on his Substack was July 9. On it, he said that the vaccinated would be passing the current phases of Covid 19 to everyone, including the unvaccinated. He posited then that the next variant would mostly stay within the vaccinated community (and "enhanced severe" strength at that).
This latest evidence will probably cause him to do an update.
It's pretty astounding that he makes his info publicly available. Not long ago, only a select few reading the right scientific journals would be able to see it.
Read it to the kids you work with ! Maybe one of them will become the next Geert (and maybe they'll have some good ideas as they daydream in their seats, otherwise). Ha.
I have a lot of faith in the ingenuity of the human species...I hope one does, and I hope another one comes up with the answer to Peak oil, if indeed that is what is behind the scenes.
Great question but Marek's Disease would be if you are unvaxxed - you have to vaxx huge flocks of chickens because the unvaxxed chickens die.
As I've pointed out a couple of times on Sage Hana's Sub, Geert's real fear is that if we vaccinate too many children, the virus will evolve to try and potentially kill, or at least try to find a way to outwit, the immune systems of children. Ironically, children get Covid so mildly because their immune systems aren't evolved enough to be seriously affected.
If you start undermining the immune systems of children and the virus tries to evade THEIR immune system, that will then potentially start killing the adults. Possibly ALL the adults, regardless of vaxx status.
Geert will darkly hint at this but he will never outright say it. But I'v spoken to a couple of immunologists and this is what they translated he is trying to imply.
I may be wrong here but I'm pretty sure I read an article by/watched a video with Geert where he suggested that "chemoprophylaxis" might eventually stop working if used to much (by this he is talking about things like HCQ and Ivermectin). Don't quote me on that though.
Yes, but the people getting sick are also unvaxxed with natural immunity. ie they've had Covid but are not protected against the new variant. The naturally immune have developed antibodies against the nucleocapsid (not just the spike) so I thought he was hopeful that the broader natural immunity would throw off variants just dangerous for the vaxxed...it seems it is not so.
Baboon, I think it is quite likely it is another psyop. At least I hope it is. But Japan
I think is not discouraging IVM...and they have also put the stop to Central Bank Digital Programmable Currency, so I like to keep an eye on them...haven't so far fallen for the entire plandemic...
Do they still title those vaccinated under 14 days as unvaccinated? Do they include those with one dose as unvaccinated? Those who haven't gotten the booster as unvaccinated?
I agree everyone I know that is not vax does not test if possible.
We don't know, but we presume so...they are still doing the 14 day thing because we know getting the shot drops your immune response ...not sure if we even have the data anymore from the CDC...most countries now are not publishing the data anymore because it doesn't look good for them.
Hi baboon, i think he said the children because of course, they are the biggest bunch of unvaxxed and could provide a hopeful barrier/oh what is that word I am looking for?? herd immunity for the rest of us..Because they are not the most, but at least a good fifth maybe of the population....and with the rest of us taking prophyl...he thought only the vaxxed might be in danger of a killer variant. But snce we are hearing (and I hope it is just fear porn and not true) that the naturally immune are getting re-infected...well, there was always a chance that the virus would become more lethal to all..vaxxed and unvaxxed.....but let's hope whatever, it leaves children out of this.
The cryptic message was from late last year to some colleagues in an open email, I think Malone was one recipient. He made reference to the children at the end and refused to expound on his point, that is what I am referring to. There was just enough in there for some experts to deduce what he meant.
Of course I can't find the link now!
"but let's hope whatever, it leaves children out of this"
If this goes down the way it was explained to me (these people were also very reticent about fully explaining this, and I understand why), one said "what will happen to all those orphaned children".
In other words, the kids will be fine in regards to Covid, there just won't be any adults left to bring them up.
Thanks for explaining. Dontcha just hate it when you can't remember where you saw or bookmarked something? I need to go back in my computer to 2020 and start putting together all the disparate stuff I've copies or linked to....sigh. God has been very good to me..and I am extremely grateful, but my next life I want to be tall, be able to carry a tune, and with much better organizational skills...
I was concerned when I heard Geert say that you should stop taking prophylactic ivermectin as you may cause the virus to mutate to evade it and it will become useless when you need it. Hope I paraphrased that correctly. Any thoughts on that?
I think he is basically correct...but it is a pity because if we had done what he recommended a month or so ago...stop the jabs, put everyone jabbed and unjabbled on a six eek course of prophylactics...we might see the end of endemnicity as well as the virus spreading. Of course, this is a tall order for the developed countries, but by Heaven's if they could all march in lockstop to the Plandemic, our idiotic rulers should have been able to do this. But obviously they do not want to listen to reason...and they know what the soluton was all along.
So that tells us...there are a few at the top who command and the rest of them (including our President etc) are just their foot soldiers and useles idiots who think they can play at this game and survive...I think the joke will be on them at the end
Is hcq or ivermectin still working? This is the worst of all possible results from the mass vaxx...mareks disease for humans. We were afraid of this. Does Geert know?
Here you go:
"The ongoing mass vaccination campaigns must immediately be abrogated because the vaccines fail to block viral transmission and their large-scale use during a pandemic of more infectious variants will inevitably lead to vaccine resistance of circulating Sars-CoV-2 variants. Instead, mass chemoprophylaxis campaigns should be conducted at regular intervals to reduce viral infectious pressure and transmission and prevent more infectious viral variants from fueling the breeding and dominant propagation of more infectious, vaccine-resistant variants."
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=76128
I'm sure he did also say that you wouldn't want to use chemoprophylaxis continually because, presumably, at some stage the virus could evolve to overcome that as well. Maybe it was on Brett Weinstein, not sure. It does make sense from an evolutionary biology perspective though.
Yes thanks I knew he said this. But he was hopeful that natural immunity would protect a lot of the unvaxxed....it doesn't appear to be doing so with this new variant...which is why I'm asking....because it is infecting the naturally immune too. And this is the worst of all possible worlds...
I would suspect the good news is that not enough people have been using HCQ or IVM at a population level to be a problem for now. I'm going to guess it will still work as long as the way the virus still operates is the same.
I personally don't like the idea of using IVM as prophylaxis for this very reason, so I just take zinc and quercetin intermittently and of course Vit C and D.
I will tell you I am not takig weekly tests anymore or masking for work. If they try that sxxt again, I retire. No more Covid theatre. I work with kids. Most of them have already had covid.
Jumping into the conversation: I am 100% with you on avoiding IVM for prophylaxis. Vitamins D and C + zinc work with our own mucosal immune system, minimize oxidative stress damage and support enzymatic processes. Topical use of Povidone-iodine or hydrogen peroxide seem to kill the virus in the nose, mouth and throat by disruption of the outer membrane of the bug, which should not lead to development of resistance. N-cetylpyridinium chloride (тАЬScopeтАЭ) also disrupts the virus outer shell.
Bit scary to read people are using our last line of defense as a prevention for pets...
Geert's last major posting on his Substack was July 9. On it, he said that the vaccinated would be passing the current phases of Covid 19 to everyone, including the unvaccinated. He posited then that the next variant would mostly stay within the vaccinated community (and "enhanced severe" strength at that).
This latest evidence will probably cause him to do an update.
Like. And thank you. Love Geert, but my eyes tend to roll back in my head when I try and read him...the science is way above my brain pay grade...
It's pretty astounding that he makes his info publicly available. Not long ago, only a select few reading the right scientific journals would be able to see it.
Read it to the kids you work with ! Maybe one of them will become the next Geert (and maybe they'll have some good ideas as they daydream in their seats, otherwise). Ha.
I have a lot of faith in the ingenuity of the human species...I hope one does, and I hope another one comes up with the answer to Peak oil, if indeed that is what is behind the scenes.
Excellent article. He really knows his stuff. Have heard him speak a few times!
Great question but Marek's Disease would be if you are unvaxxed - you have to vaxx huge flocks of chickens because the unvaxxed chickens die.
As I've pointed out a couple of times on Sage Hana's Sub, Geert's real fear is that if we vaccinate too many children, the virus will evolve to try and potentially kill, or at least try to find a way to outwit, the immune systems of children. Ironically, children get Covid so mildly because their immune systems aren't evolved enough to be seriously affected.
If you start undermining the immune systems of children and the virus tries to evade THEIR immune system, that will then potentially start killing the adults. Possibly ALL the adults, regardless of vaxx status.
Geert will darkly hint at this but he will never outright say it. But I'v spoken to a couple of immunologists and this is what they translated he is trying to imply.
I may be wrong here but I'm pretty sure I read an article by/watched a video with Geert where he suggested that "chemoprophylaxis" might eventually stop working if used to much (by this he is talking about things like HCQ and Ivermectin). Don't quote me on that though.
Yes, but the people getting sick are also unvaxxed with natural immunity. ie they've had Covid but are not protected against the new variant. The naturally immune have developed antibodies against the nucleocapsid (not just the spike) so I thought he was hopeful that the broader natural immunity would throw off variants just dangerous for the vaxxed...it seems it is not so.
I hear you but how many people like us are going to take a PCR test or rapid antigen test and report it to any authority? I never will.
How are they tracking all these unvaxxed people who are contracting the new variant? Most of us literally don't care. Is this another psyop?
Baboon, I think it is quite likely it is another psyop. At least I hope it is. But Japan
I think is not discouraging IVM...and they have also put the stop to Central Bank Digital Programmable Currency, so I like to keep an eye on them...haven't so far fallen for the entire plandemic...
Do they still title those vaccinated under 14 days as unvaccinated? Do they include those with one dose as unvaccinated? Those who haven't gotten the booster as unvaccinated?
I agree everyone I know that is not vax does not test if possible.
We don't know, but we presume so...they are still doing the 14 day thing because we know getting the shot drops your immune response ...not sure if we even have the data anymore from the CDC...most countries now are not publishing the data anymore because it doesn't look good for them.
Hi baboon, i think he said the children because of course, they are the biggest bunch of unvaxxed and could provide a hopeful barrier/oh what is that word I am looking for?? herd immunity for the rest of us..Because they are not the most, but at least a good fifth maybe of the population....and with the rest of us taking prophyl...he thought only the vaxxed might be in danger of a killer variant. But snce we are hearing (and I hope it is just fear porn and not true) that the naturally immune are getting re-infected...well, there was always a chance that the virus would become more lethal to all..vaxxed and unvaxxed.....but let's hope whatever, it leaves children out of this.
Thanks Duchess. I agree with you.
The cryptic message was from late last year to some colleagues in an open email, I think Malone was one recipient. He made reference to the children at the end and refused to expound on his point, that is what I am referring to. There was just enough in there for some experts to deduce what he meant.
Of course I can't find the link now!
"but let's hope whatever, it leaves children out of this"
If this goes down the way it was explained to me (these people were also very reticent about fully explaining this, and I understand why), one said "what will happen to all those orphaned children".
In other words, the kids will be fine in regards to Covid, there just won't be any adults left to bring them up.
Thanks for explaining. Dontcha just hate it when you can't remember where you saw or bookmarked something? I need to go back in my computer to 2020 and start putting together all the disparate stuff I've copies or linked to....sigh. God has been very good to me..and I am extremely grateful, but my next life I want to be tall, be able to carry a tune, and with much better organizational skills...
I was concerned when I heard Geert say that you should stop taking prophylactic ivermectin as you may cause the virus to mutate to evade it and it will become useless when you need it. Hope I paraphrased that correctly. Any thoughts on that?
I think he is basically correct...but it is a pity because if we had done what he recommended a month or so ago...stop the jabs, put everyone jabbed and unjabbled on a six eek course of prophylactics...we might see the end of endemnicity as well as the virus spreading. Of course, this is a tall order for the developed countries, but by Heaven's if they could all march in lockstop to the Plandemic, our idiotic rulers should have been able to do this. But obviously they do not want to listen to reason...and they know what the soluton was all along.
So that tells us...there are a few at the top who command and the rest of them (including our President etc) are just their foot soldiers and useles idiots who think they can play at this game and survive...I think the joke will be on them at the end