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Steve Z.'s avatar

Sorry, NOT sorry.

A 30-06 will NOT be stopped by dense bone or any other such gibberish. The bullet will not be found "in the skin".

It is sheer stupidity to accept such an outcome from such a powerful round over a short distance. Look at You Tube videos where 30 caliber bullets go through plate steel...but not bone? Ridiculous......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLCJzP0VJh8

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

But... but... but.... this was SUPERMAN vertebrae. They may have been verteBRO.

How do we even know it was .30 cal? We're being TOLD that.

.300 Win Mag? Or 6.5 Creedmore? 7mm?

We were also told:

"Pangolins" and "Wet Markets" and "Masks Work" and "Save Grandma"

"Highly effective" and "Safe and Effective"

Imagine being surprised at an entire generation of skeptics awakening.

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JP McArthur's avatar

its incredible how easy it is to get the peasants to buy anything coming from the mockingbird media. If its coming from the mainstream and alt media, its not what is being shown. This is faker than the trump assassination. So many holes in this con job. its hilarious how many sheep fall for this distraction. Just like 911, Oklahoma city, sandy hook, oct 7.

The real question is what are the elites going to implement now? just like they did with the patriot act and 911. Mental disorders to take guns, AI control grid.

Just like how the majority of leftard sheep fell for the convid fraud, now the gullible maga sheep are falling for this garbage. Amazing.

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Igz Navi's avatar

It was a miracle ! Jesus even resurrected .

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Billy G's avatar

If you want yo believe that this kid shot Charlie Kirk, well that’s your prerogative. I will never accept that narrative, not only due the video evidence showing him going forward thus indicating a shot from anywhere but the front. But the stories on this kid and his lady-man are falling apart all over the place. This is total bullsh*t

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

Learn to read. I explicitly wrote nothing is definitive, just presenting another point of view.

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Billy G's avatar

I can read just fine thank you. However, I need to apologize, I was not directing my reply specifically towards you but people in general. But as regards this sheriff, who is he? Did he reach out to you or vice versa? What is known about him other than he was former sheriff and a competitive shooter? What organizations does he belong to if any? Does he profess any religious affiliation?

My point very simply is this, your are right, we'll probably never find out what actually happened with Charlie other than he was murdered. There is so much information /disinformation out there which I believe is par for course, that it will be extremely difficult. If you are going to publish more speculation on this subject I think it is only fair that the reader know more about the "expert" that is providing another perceptive.

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Peter Wiggin's avatar

Kidding right…

…they didn’t secure the assassination site and it was being torn down by someone within minutes

The University then dug up and finished a previous project for that site in days…

…digging up and pouring concrete

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Billy G's avatar

I’m shocked!

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Peter Wiggin's avatar

The horrible description that I heard making sense as a physician including towards trajectory and 5 destroyed vertebrae before the bullet stopped, including apparently other bones (ribs) increasing fragmentation…

…there apparently was the largest mass of fragmented projectile found “under the skin”

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David Larsen's avatar

WTF are you even talking about “going to the front” ? In both videos he is struck, goes rigid and slightly upright and then leans/falls to his left. Prove me wrong.

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Weary's avatar

Yes...👏👏👏!!! Makes no sense whatsoever!! Read my (Weary) comment.

Peggy Hill, The Healthy American, nailed exactly what I believe might’ve taken place 😉. We’ll never really ever know though...until maybe 30 years from now, like the JFK info. 🤫

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Tess's avatar

Been following her a bit. She makes a lot of sense. I don’t see a lot of people pointing to a squib, but I’m leaning in that direction.

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Weary's avatar

Peggy Hall, The Healthy American, YouTube...ALSO thinks clearly outside the box!!

https://youtu.be/owevwcZG6aY?si=j9cyg1rFe7nFc_iN

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Billy G's avatar

I’ve seen many videos. He was not shot from the front. And a rifle of that caliber would have blown a massive hole in his body. Period. No miracles reported , the miracle would have been had it struck him and nothing happened.

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GalleG's avatar

The videos show he was shot from the right side.

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Billy G's avatar

He raises up and slumps to his left, that's what I see from many videos. But the larger issue here is not this particular detail, its the f*cking lies that are being told. IF he was shot by a 30.06 caliber rifle, no amount of vertebrae would stop the round. And, most likely would have ripped Charlie's neck apart to the point that his head might have been dangling, it would have been a most horrific sight. There is a cover up, there is no doubt, should I believe their bullshit ever changing story or my lying eyes?

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Thomas A Braun's avatar

I saw two video that are highly disturbing. The first was of a military type man with a crew cut , sun glasses with a brown shirt on that was ten feet or so from Charley and it shows him sitting sideways and pointing his right hand over his left arm directly towards Charley and a shot is heard. The author suggests that he used a palm pistol which is small and can be hidden in the hand. After Charley is hit the report is that the man ran towards Charley to help, and that would be the stragegy of a professional assissin. The second is of Charley being hit and the force of the bullet lifted him up and to the left. Hitting is clavical? That means the trajectory of the bullet came from below his shoulder. The opposite of what a rifle shot from on top of a building, which would be a down trajectory. Then the high velocity of blood is ejected, then reduced and then repeated as the heart contracts and then relaxes. It is plausible that the bullet came from that palm gun and hit his clavical on the left side of his body and was deflected upwards and struck the jugular and lodged under the skin. So, I am waiting for the day the FBI confirms that the bullet came from the untraceable rifle. Otherwise, there is so much evidence that clearly is staged to say it was a loner.

To this day I have the same view about the Butler event. This suggests it was preplanned to lead us to believe it was just one deranged young man. Until then I am thinking this was a well planned assissination by parties unknown.

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Igz Navi's avatar

Those Chicago palm guns were mostly 32 caliber . So it can stay in the body .

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Thomas A Braun's avatar

So..the brown shirter in front was misdirection. The second video is clear.

Wow! His own security guard! It wasn't a rifle shot. The guard reminds me of a Nazi

that believes in a superior race.

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Gemma Insinna's avatar

Yes and yes!!!

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J Debra Grube's avatar

Yes, I totally understand that you’re just sharing the facts but it’s true after seeing the evidence and watching that clip over and over there’s no way that he was shot from the front. It is so peculiar. The whole thing just does not add up, but it doesn’t matter one day the truth will come out. But Charlie still has left us with an assignment. Let’s march forward with that.

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J Debra Grube's avatar

The second video you have that guy in the dark green shirt the guy saying he’s the shooter and he was to Charlie’s right so that’s not from the front

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GalleG's avatar

You’re right. It’s more towards the back on the side.

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JP MAXWELL's avatar

This is by far one of the poorest articles you've released from both an accurate source and factual foundation perspective. Either your source is a well-placed Zionist asset, a member of the Israeli/American IC, or a law enforcement officer who failed every course he took on weapons ballistics and forensics and managed to become a member of S.W.A.T. because his mother put in a good word for him, as for Andrew Kolvet; Semper Fi, you lying P.O.S.

The so-called "ex-Sheriff" uses a plethora of words to say absolutely nothing. The likelihood that the FBI's official narrative on the Charlie Kirk assassination is accurate is 0%. Please read that again, ZERO PERCENT. For those special operators, both active and retired, who have analyzed the footage of the shooting, who deal with all calibers and weapons, and would "eliminate" a S.W.A.T. target before they even got a bead have concluded Mr. Kirk appears to have been shot at close range with a small caliber, most likely a 5.6mm (.22 round), by an operator within his own security detail. And Mr. Kirk WAS NOT wearing ANY body armour. This is A FACT!

Please continue to provide the excellent analysis on health issues that we can rely on you for. When you enter this realm and publish this kind of drivel, it only makes you appear foolish and ignorant of the facts.

The "man of steel" theory belongs exactly where it originated - in a comic book. The true miracle here is that people actually believe the FBI. This was a political assassination by an operator of the IC. The purpose is to incite anti-semitic fervor at all levels, further justifying the coming legislation, making it illegal to speak freely. This is ALL ABOUT the loss of our 1st Amendment. And Charlie Kirk was the "best" candidate to make an example of - I'm sorry, that is the truth.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

My source is a personal friend.

Nice try.

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JP MAXWELL's avatar

Be that as it may he is 100% wrong. And he is spreading disinformation. Why?

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

He is a personal friend.

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Ron Swanson's avatar

Discretion being the better part of valor, I took it down.

Cheers mate.

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Peter Wiggin's avatar

I believe only a direct vertebral impact could fragment a 30-06 into smaller exit wounds and Devastating internal injuries.

There are soft tip 30-06 rounds and well as fragmenting or even armor piercing incendiary rounds…

…I have not heard the type of 30-06 ammo being reported, so how can definitive statements of “conspiracy” be made

It’s a Whitmer event…

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JP MAXWELL's avatar

I can assure you 100% that the round that killed Mr. Kirk was not a .30-06. A 7.62x33mm round would not only have severed Mr. Kirk's spine, it would have virtually removed his head from his torso. The FBI knows this - and they are lying. Most people are caught up in the caliber chatter instead of the trajectory and audio profiles. This was a relatively close shot. It appears one of Mr. Kirk's security personnel made a "quick" hand gesture with what seems to be a designator between his fingers, thereby "painting the target" for the HOG, if it was, indeed, an operator. Instantly as this man designated the target the target was hit. Coincidence? Sure.

The shot that ended Charlie's life entered through his right side, behind the ear, from approximately his 2 O'clock position, most likely. This can be seen in analyzing the videos released to the public. What appears to be a muzzle flash is seen to his right in the shadows, and a small spurt of blood leaves the back of Charlie's head, with the bullet following a downward trajectory, severing his spine, then exiting through his left side. This is what is being reported as the penetrating wound when, in fact, it is the perforating wound. The "painter" then quickly jumps the security perimeter and runs to Mr. Kirk's side, most likely scouting for the bullet before assisting Mr. Kirk to an unmarked SUV. This was a professional hit with military precision.

The crime scene was quickly sanitized by removing the overhead camera facing the back of Mr. Kirk, as well as recording the audience. This fact alone screams "inside job." The chair Mr. Kirk was sitting on was used as a stool. Whatever nation-state is responsible for this assassination has absolute disdain for local and Federal law enforcement.

THIS IS NOT A CONSPIRACY IN THAT IT WASN'T DONE IN SECRET. Any experienced operator can deduce rather quickly what happened. As can the FBI. They're just choosing to sell the public a comic book version. Why? I'm fairly certain I know why. And I'm sure it has to do with a small piece of real-estate on the Mediterranean that is currently being wiped off the map.

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pyrrhus's avatar

The "miracle" is Total baloney...I've used the 30-06 cartridges and. they will blow through a steel pipe..And apparently the sonic recording indicates that the shooter was far closer than the rooftop, less than 100 feet away...And the FBI trashing the crime scene so the bullet can't be found clinches the case that this is a total coverup....

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

But it was "found" just under the skin

Echoes of finding the Magic Bullet of JFK right on his gurney.

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Peter Wiggin's avatar

I do NOT believe that “it” was found under the skin…the story I heard was vertebral body impact with massive fragmentation…large fragment apparently went downwards destroying 5 vertebrae and vital structures…

…he was dead instantly and it sure looked like explosive bleeding, but even a small fragment continuing as through and through would cause that appearance

What was found “under the skin” was a larger fragment

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

One of the more plausible explanations

TY

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Igz Navi's avatar

And we are sitting in a magic show for a few thousand years .

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Peter Wiggin's avatar

Don’t worry…self replicating mRNA nanobots (virus?) are the beginning of the 1000 year plague…

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

I agree with Billy G. If Charlie was shot by a 30-06 there is no bone in his head or neck that would have stopped the bullet. Also, did the sound of the gunshot sound like one from a 30-06? No.

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WvVet's avatar

Charlie was wearing a metal vest under his t shirt. They are angled inward at the top. Bullet ricocheted upward into his neck where it left a large entrance wound because it was at an angle. Entry wounds are typically small. It probably went upward into his cranium. There are a number of videos explaining this on YT. His shirt actually lifts upward due to the bullet traveling upward.

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Chris's avatar

An ex-sniper comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltakvGyzfZs

1 - the hole is an exit wound, as entrance wounds don't show blood that fast.

2 - the shirt thing is his mic cord bouncing.

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Kat Bro's avatar

Why are there no visible holes in the tshirt? It just bounced off the fabric. 😒

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

IF it was .30-06, that's somewhat small to see from a distance, 1/3 inch, 7.62 mm.

Was there a L3/L4 plate? L2 and unlucky ricochet?

If the shot was center-mass AND was .30 cal the damage to the chest/back would have been similarly devastating.

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Freedom fighter's avatar

I’ve read numerous accounts from people that were there that said he absolutely had no body armor on at all. He never does!

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RandiG's avatar

I heard this the day he was shot on Meghan Kelley. And then that narrative disappeared. It makes the most sense.

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WRE's avatar

THAT... is reality!!! And... why are all the "experts" not talking about it???

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JP MAXWELL's avatar

This is conjecture based on zero evidence. Since when does the male nipple penetrate body armor? Both of Mr. Kirk's nipples are clearly seen. So? Is Mr. Kirk now not only the "man of steel" but also the Dark Knight with accompanying nipple molds in his vest? C'mon. Think people. Think. YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT AN ENTRY WOUND!!!! You're looking at the exit wound. The FBI is lying through its teeth. Director Patel and Deputy Bongino are not stupid men. But they are heavily controlled. And they are lying. What are they afraid of?

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Mark Beardsley's avatar

Nope! Not a metal vest! NO ONE WEARS METAL TRAUMA PLATES because they produce lethal fragments when bullets hit them. That said, it's plausible he's wearing a Ceramic trauma plate under his shirt, which do a pretty good job of catching bullets without fragmenting them. I've seen a recreation of the shot, and a Ceramic plate did produce a wound without a visible exit wound, very similar to where they say Charlie was hit. NOT saying that's what happened, but the recreation did make it seem plausible! "Healthy Bones" don't stop high powered rifle bullets at 180 to 200 yrds! I've shot .30-06 and other .30 cal high powered rifles at deer for almost 5 decades now, bullets doe some strange things but when they hit vertebra, they pretty much turn them to gravel! You will get some bullet fragmentation, but it really depends on the type of bullet and weight of the bullet as well. As for whether or not they are reloads, that's very easy to determine by a powder analyst, but you are right, they've not release the details on the bullets, powder charge, etc. which would help folks try to test what's being reported much more accurately.

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Cape Tribulation's avatar

Thing is no one trusts official narratives or “authority” figures, including (especially?) doctors. No one is buying how this is playing out! I have serious questions: Why was this crime scene immediately dismantled and scrubbed, where is footage from that camera behind Charlie, explain the ready-for-trial, phony-as-hell emails , among so many other things? Apparently the front neck wound is an exit wound, according to ex-military ballistics experts such as Zeb Boykin, and not from a Mauser. And still we sit here and know nothing about the Thomas Crooks fiasco. The FBI is looking just plain gullible and stupid.

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Igz Navi's avatar

Are they stupid or just looking stupid ?

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Cape Tribulation's avatar

I know, right? I mean, by now we know who is really behind these “events” from JFK on down. They are all inside jobs in my opinion. Looks like Kash and Dan are too terrified to name it.

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Eric Y's avatar

Ok second smartest fellow. I don't usually comment much. I watched a video of a marine that I believe has now been swept of X. The big hole on the left side of Charlie's neck is the exit wound. The bullet entered the base of his skull on his right side. The mossod/israel is the

killer not a transtifa member of the community.

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

Great - so then they HAVE the bullet.

Which would EASILY match the rifling in the barrel.

And we have the rifle, which should have both the fingerprints AND we should have the tool (flathead screwdriver) which disassembled AND reassembled the screwdriver.

That sheriff may be a great shot, worked with new and old ammo, light and heavy loads, match rounds, scopes, iron sites, hunter, target shooter.

But we need ALL video, the bullet, the rifle. It's not that complicated.

It still stinks of coverup.

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SomeDude's avatar

the bang-to-impact time analysis done on multiple available videos says <100 feet between gun and neck.

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WRE's avatar

VERY GOOD STUFF!!! As I said/wrote through ongoing real tears... even though I only "knew" Charlie by way of his videos... I feel like I've lost a Son and "They" screwed up... because "they" have created a monster sized martyr!!

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RandiG's avatar

WRE,

All of us are feeling a sense of loss. Especially yesterday for his memorial.

It’s bad enough to mourn and grieve in ‘silence’. What’s worse is when we have evil people in the House who say CK’s legacy will go into the dust bin. She needs to be removed from Congress like they removed Santos (who shouldn’t have been removed).

When we allow shitheads like her to speak - on national TV - and spew such hatred; the hatred spreads. It makes the tragedy feel all the more deep because they see his existence as meaningless.

I believe God has a better plan for these people than we could ever imagine. I wish for them to get exactly what they deserve.

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WRE's avatar

Good!! The only thing I disagree with is "they see his existence as meaningless"! They know damn well it was not!! That's why they are scrambling to warp his story in order to try to salvage theirs!!

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RandiG's avatar

WRE,

I should have said “they’d like to see his existence as meaningless”. They are voicing their hatred to be relevant.

When I see Hillary and Obama poke their heads up it drives me crazy. They are irrelevant and need to shut up!

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The Do Not Comply Guy's avatar

Only a literal fool would believe this...and any of the official narratives we're being fed. I've seen plenty of exit wounds from a 30.06 (center mass through flesh and bone on deer) and there was not "neck of steel" Godly intervention here. This is more spin for the literal devoid of critical thinking, brainless sheep. People really need to wake up to the true agendas at play here and what's being done to them. Sadly the elites think we're all mostly stupid cattle and more sadly, we prove them right time and time again, via BS stories just like this that people accept.

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Matt Schweder's avatar

The fbi said he was shot from the roof with a 30 06 round, hitting him in the neck. I don’t care what your buddy here says, THAT is impossible based on the video we saw.

The jumping off the roof video is horse shit. There is NOTHING definitive in it except it was manipulated, there was no gun, and no people running and screaming.

I could go on and on but the biggest fact that tells you this was 100% NOT done by Tyler Robinson is the crime scene was not secured. Had anyone but the fbi or israel done this, that scene would have been roped off and analyzed for days, not disassembled, window changed out, ground dug up and re-paved.

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Weary's avatar

A lot of IFs and NO FACTUAL and VERIFIABLE FORENSIC or TRAJECTORY DATA given!! Yet again, here goes the LABELS of “Conspiracy Theorists” for those seeking conclusive and accurate data from reputable, reliable and confirmed sources, which will likely NEVER come to fruition because information is conveniently out of reach and off limits until the Gvmt decides to comply with a obligatory FOIA request only to be rejected or dispersed at their discretion and timing... if at all! One will usually have to wait and ultimately obtain a court order if they haven’t given up already, which likely happens and what the GVMT STALL banks on.

GOD FORBID anyone question the spoon-fed, Gvmt narratives “pushed and forced” upon them through their media pundit machine via square, technology-driven and controlled devices. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO PETITION YOUR GVMT, and you have the right to speculate or give opinions based on one’s formidable knowledge just like Alex Jones. He questioned the ballistics because he’s in the know and calls out preposterous conclusions with no definitive evidence whatsoever. His latest statement was about the steep bullet angle of trajectory. (Sounds like someone told him to let it go and accept Kirk’s producer’s take, which gave some unnamed surgeon’s “man of steel” BS conclusion as gospel.) He’s obviously backing off his initial statement with some insane conclusion about how the higher angle of bullet delivery impact could’ve possibly lodged itself under skin instead of exiting. The amount of cartridge power blast would’ve obliterated the bone to exit, not lodge itself under the skin. Jones knows that like many others in fields who understand certain artillery and other performance tactics that could’ve been achieved.

BTW...who, today, trusts more speculative commentary from some Sheriff and a supposed gun expert? Who selected them to make such claims? 😙

Too many questions unanswered involving crime scene, certain security and people involved. It doesn’t make sense. Has a certain stench about it that reeks BS.

How about talking about conditioning a public perception and future generations through persuasion via technology and AI advances. You perpetuate the argument to “NOT QUESTION EVERYTHING” from a multi-faceted view. No longer is one’s underlying common “spidy” sense or thinking outside the box permitted!! No...the sheep must be convinced, steered and led by the wolves trickery.

Speaking of Wolves, Naomi Wolf came out recently with a similar narrative too. “Have proof, don’t speculate! Write your lengthy, MLA-style, factual papers with vigorous, foot-noted evidence!! She knows all too well (Pfizer papers) how obtaining factual, hidden data and information to expose truths is practically impossible to obtain without legal involvement and lots and lots of money, time and endless persistence.

All being said, you can’t con a conman. Oh , the games we play!!

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