Congress has been abdicating all military conflict duties to the executive branch now for decades. This is really no different. They will all be on crying about it, but they are happy. They had nothing to do with the decision.
Great article by Jonathan Turley about exactly this in The Hill I believe today. He comes to the conclusion that while the Constitution requires Congress to approve they have abdicated their rights.
Because They Are Caught Up In The CIA/MOSSAD Epstein Honey Trap Blackmail Sex Scandal - Ensnaring The World's Politicians For Warmongering Pentagon MIC Complex!
Though the Constitution states they have the power to declare war, it does not state that the Commander in Chief does not, since he commands the military. If both parties and both houses “declared war” , the Declaration would land on the Commander in Chief’s desk to direct warfare. This is why Congress hasn’t declared war in many decades. The strike today was a surprise given the off ramps that were proffered for months prior and the purpose was to finish off an ally’s campaign with the appropriate high level weapons for strategic strikes.
For weeks I could only consider the risk. It’s a relief that it’s over, but we must guard our borders diligently.
What a sweet deal our ally has. Start a war you can't fight or win? We've got your back. Would you like world war 3 to start wirh Russia? If so, vote Democrat. If you prefer it start in the middle east after our president lied to vs conspiring with leaders there, put on your MAGA hat. And don't forget MAHA who will make sure we aren't eating any artificial food dyes before the retire to their bunkers.
We are the enemy they are fighting against. Never forget that.
This is squarely on point for the majority of Constitution honoring Americans.
Especially in a divided country such as our Republic is at this time, the Commander in Chief will be challenged on all his enumerated authorities. The means of achieving peace are always subject to doubt because the enemy/other always has a vote, even if they no longer exist, since anyone watching will vicariously defend the perceived ‘rights’ of the defeated.
Whether this action achieves a true measure of peace will be determined by the votes of the onlookers, especially the ones who have the most invested in the Iran.
Whether our Commander in Chief acted wisely, proportionately, and under honest ‘intelligence’ is for history which is now underway in due diligence. Here’s hoping that the Complex got a better return on investment than the propaganda ‘win’ the Israeli’s got. I think it’s fair to say it felt a lot like a big stakes hustle.
One thing is for sure: DJT, POTUS 47, is not a waffling, wimpy wuss.
For reasons I can't fathom, Trump and the neocon deep state seem to think that Iran will roll over and play dead. Do they not understand human nature at all?
This single action has turned me away from Trump. How many others are there like me? He was not elected to protect Israel. We did not want a war. And he is delusional if he thinks this isn't going to escalate, and that Americans won't be killed. For Israel.
His response to Covid in allowing the killshot to be developed and shutting the country down, turned to me against Trump. This really seals the deal. He’s not as smart as he thinks he is. His ego allows him to be manipulated in the worst possible ways.
His own national security advisor Tulsa Gabbert told him and the nation that I ran did not present a nuclear threat at this time. There was no need to rush into this.
We need to impress upon them that this in not their fight, this started long before they were born. They are under NO OBLIGATION TO FOLLOW ORDERS FROM THOSE WHO WOULD SUBVERT THE CONSTITUTION. We need to support them in this. In times of extreme danger like this, they are needed first and foremost at home to protect their loved ones.
It used to be that people signed up out of patriotism and love of country. Some folks are just ready for the “good fight”. The brotherhood and camaraderie of the service is appealing. Knowing you may have to fight just comes with the territory and most warriors don’t shy away from deployment.
When people join the armed forces, or become police officers they go into the profession knowing that at some time they may have to fight. That their lives may be in danger. It makes no sense to go into these professions and then lament maybe getting hurt. Become an accountant if you want safety.
Well, as a retired LEO with 25 years in uniform, who’s been shot, stabbed and been in some very dangerous situations, I’m hardly speaking from the sidelines. I grew up in a military family. We know the risks and dangers of service and we accept them. As a LEO you know every day that you may not come home. In the military the possibility of being deployed is always there. Just part of the job.
I respectfully disagree. I do not think that Israel was "losing" at all. Iran was losing badly, and was losing the support of the Iranian people, who want the islamic regime gone. Trump provided the knockout blow to Iran's nuclear facilities, that Israel could not do. This does not mean that Trump has entered into a new war. On the contrary, he is putting an end to the deep state regime in Iran that has been an enemy of the US for decades, the regime supported by Obama and Biden and the globalists who want the US to be involved in war.
This was no different than taking out of Soleimani.
Dave, that all was CIA propaganda ,that the people were dying to have western freedom and wanted to be liberated by Israel/America. They have been galvanized as a people like never before. Even the most liberal elements are fully behind the government now. Our government always makes this claim about every war we start in order to make it more palatable to the American people but it’s always a lie. When attacked, countries tend to develop more cohesion and determination. BTW, re taking out Soleimani, are political assassinations now the new norm for American foreign policy? In 1953 we got rid of a democratically elected, western oriented president (Mossediq) because he nationalized Iran’s oil. We and the Brits cooperated to regain the oil profits. We installed the Shah and his family who ruled brutally through his secret police, SAVAK. The people hated him. Don’t you remember? I went to college with young Iranians who wanted to overthrow him and go in a religiously conservative direction. So in come the mullahs. But much is changing, women are free to skip the veil now if they choose and they are fully integrated into the educational and tech sectors. We will not prevail against the Persians. They are a proud, ancient people who know how to endure suffering. I hope we survive what’s coming.
Yes and other countries have longer memories than Americans. I don't know if trump lied to the leaders in the middle east on his peace tour or if he lied to the American people that it was a peace tour, but either way, it's not good. The Republicans lie and the Democrats have gone insane and we are all complicit because we fell for it.
EXACTLY! Couldn't have said it better myself. I read your comment to my 32 year army infantry veteran who deployed 3 times to Iraq, and he's in complete agreement with you. People don't understand military strategy. Trump wants peace through strength and sometimes this is the way it has to be done. The US and the world are safer now. The deep state is being obliterated. 🇺🇲
"On the contrary, he is putting an end to the deep state regime in Iran that has been an enemy of the US for decades, the regime supported by Obama and Biden and the globalists who want the US to be involved in war."
Because regime change has worked out so very well for the US in the past?
Oh wait, it's like Communism right? We just haven't done "regime change" correctly in the past, have we?
This is Israel's business, not that of the US. They are not a territory of the US or a state. If they could not do it without bunker busters and certain planes, they should have built them themselves. Not rely on a third party.
I wonder who the first US sacrificial lamb to die in support of Israel will be? Does that person even know that they have been chosen to die on behalf of Israel, even though they are American.
Do we in fact have good intel from the ground that these bombings actually occurred and occurred where they were said to have occurred and if so what if any REAL damage they actually did?
I don’t believe that Iran had the upper hand and Iron Dome was depleted. Give me an effing break! This smacks of Hamas riding motorized lawnmowers to breach the most securely fortified border in the world on 10/7/23. Netanyahu’s a faker - his wife says he even fakes his organisms. What a putz!
You do 'know' that Iran (The NON aggressor here), HAS 'Trade Deals' with those other Newby 'Axis of Evil'(surprised the NEO-CONs haven't 'Re-Used this worn out reference - LOL), Russia and China! Does one think that Iran, IS, somehow - On the Ropes? The Western GRUNTS leadership, Could Learn more from the Constituant Ex Persian Empire Semitic states - Operational BEFORE the Romans 'Rocked into town'! So they are NOT some Amateurs, to be meddled with! NOR, sending in some Trashy Knights from Ye Olde England's romantic notion of Crusaders'R'us! And the Ex Persian nations, Ain't just utilising 'Camels Only' in the Modern era! They are also doing things at their own pace - Which IS their OWN right, as a Sovereign Nation. Something, the West somehow 'Feels' is the Wests 'Right to Meddle'. = We, are STILL - Grunts & OverRegulated (Repression Class system of CONtrol)> Residual English models. - And I do not see it's apparent Social Fortes, tangibly panning out in front of me.
last; Let's get the IAEA weapons inspectors, to PROPERLY inspect ALL of Israel's Arsenals (Including ANY Battlefield Tactical Nukes) & 'Civil' Nuclear Facilities. Chances of?
How on earth could anyone support Trump bombing Iran? For God’s sake- both sides were at the negotiating table, the negotiations had not nearly completed before America bombs Iran??!!!! WTF. Can’t say I’m surprised though.
This isn’t a ‘war’. Cdn in London, UK. Unless women/men desire USA resemble this city. Why only women forced to wear religious garb? Sharia law abounds - Look it up. Horrid for females. Trying to establish it in NY USA. Big Picture - unless Christian/Jewish/Hindu etc stop this worse than Dark Ages Barbarianism from proliferating and continue killing us all with terrorism, God forbid nucs, the Western way of life is doomed. Not about ‘countries’ anymore. It’s not just a USA problem, it’s all our problem. These sorts of issues have been around since the dawn of man. Please travel to a Muslim country and read some history prior to unintelligent replies A strong man made a strong decision. Thank God.
Congress has been abdicating all military conflict duties to the executive branch now for decades. This is really no different. They will all be on crying about it, but they are happy. They had nothing to do with the decision.
Great article by Jonathan Turley about exactly this in The Hill I believe today. He comes to the conclusion that while the Constitution requires Congress to approve they have abdicated their rights.
Because They Are Caught Up In The CIA/MOSSAD Epstein Honey Trap Blackmail Sex Scandal - Ensnaring The World's Politicians For Warmongering Pentagon MIC Complex!
Though the Constitution states they have the power to declare war, it does not state that the Commander in Chief does not, since he commands the military. If both parties and both houses “declared war” , the Declaration would land on the Commander in Chief’s desk to direct warfare. This is why Congress hasn’t declared war in many decades. The strike today was a surprise given the off ramps that were proffered for months prior and the purpose was to finish off an ally’s campaign with the appropriate high level weapons for strategic strikes.
For weeks I could only consider the risk. It’s a relief that it’s over, but we must guard our borders diligently.
What a sweet deal our ally has. Start a war you can't fight or win? We've got your back. Would you like world war 3 to start wirh Russia? If so, vote Democrat. If you prefer it start in the middle east after our president lied to vs conspiring with leaders there, put on your MAGA hat. And don't forget MAHA who will make sure we aren't eating any artificial food dyes before the retire to their bunkers.
We are the enemy they are fighting against. Never forget that.
You're exactly right Diane, good post
This is squarely on point for the majority of Constitution honoring Americans.
Especially in a divided country such as our Republic is at this time, the Commander in Chief will be challenged on all his enumerated authorities. The means of achieving peace are always subject to doubt because the enemy/other always has a vote, even if they no longer exist, since anyone watching will vicariously defend the perceived ‘rights’ of the defeated.
Whether this action achieves a true measure of peace will be determined by the votes of the onlookers, especially the ones who have the most invested in the Iran.
Whether our Commander in Chief acted wisely, proportionately, and under honest ‘intelligence’ is for history which is now underway in due diligence. Here’s hoping that the Complex got a better return on investment than the propaganda ‘win’ the Israeli’s got. I think it’s fair to say it felt a lot like a big stakes hustle.
One thing is for sure: DJT, POTUS 47, is not a waffling, wimpy wuss.
It felt risky, too risky for me. Such a relief when the 12 days were over.
CIA/MOSSAD Epstein Honey Trap Blackmail Sex Scandal - Ensnaring The
World's Politicians For Warmongering Pentagon MIC Complex..
USAID – About Propaganda – Coups – Color Revolutions – Regime
Change – BioWeapons – War/Drug Profit$$$
You know you're at peak degeneracy when child r*pists control the world
Exactly, they are money grubbing cowards.
Relax relax relax. You don't know what you don't know. Senseless to freak out now.
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted."
Well, if you, your son or your daughter is eligible to be drafted or is in the armed services, well, I can see a reason to freak out.
Grandson is in the Marines, :(
I'm so very, very sorry.
For reasons I can't fathom, Trump and the neocon deep state seem to think that Iran will roll over and play dead. Do they not understand human nature at all?
This single action has turned me away from Trump. How many others are there like me? He was not elected to protect Israel. We did not want a war. And he is delusional if he thinks this isn't going to escalate, and that Americans won't be killed. For Israel.
His response to Covid in allowing the killshot to be developed and shutting the country down, turned to me against Trump. This really seals the deal. He’s not as smart as he thinks he is. His ego allows him to be manipulated in the worst possible ways.
His own national security advisor Tulsa Gabbert told him and the nation that I ran did not present a nuclear threat at this time. There was no need to rush into this.
He is Jewish just like his daughter.
And owned by Epstein and mossad
We need to impress upon them that this in not their fight, this started long before they were born. They are under NO OBLIGATION TO FOLLOW ORDERS FROM THOSE WHO WOULD SUBVERT THE CONSTITUTION. We need to support them in this. In times of extreme danger like this, they are needed first and foremost at home to protect their loved ones.
The Republicans lie and the Democrats are insane.
Okay, understood. Why do people sign up for military service?
Because The Economy Is in The Toilet - Almost Everything Has Doubled.
Forced Into Military For a Job & Education.
It used to be that people signed up out of patriotism and love of country. Some folks are just ready for the “good fight”. The brotherhood and camaraderie of the service is appealing. Knowing you may have to fight just comes with the territory and most warriors don’t shy away from deployment.
When people join the armed forces, or become police officers they go into the profession knowing that at some time they may have to fight. That their lives may be in danger. It makes no sense to go into these professions and then lament maybe getting hurt. Become an accountant if you want safety.
Most join to escape poverty. This is why people are kept poor
Well, as a retired LEO with 25 years in uniform, who’s been shot, stabbed and been in some very dangerous situations, I’m hardly speaking from the sidelines. I grew up in a military family. We know the risks and dangers of service and we accept them. As a LEO you know every day that you may not come home. In the military the possibility of being deployed is always there. Just part of the job.
Thank you for your service.
I respectfully disagree. I do not think that Israel was "losing" at all. Iran was losing badly, and was losing the support of the Iranian people, who want the islamic regime gone. Trump provided the knockout blow to Iran's nuclear facilities, that Israel could not do. This does not mean that Trump has entered into a new war. On the contrary, he is putting an end to the deep state regime in Iran that has been an enemy of the US for decades, the regime supported by Obama and Biden and the globalists who want the US to be involved in war.
This was no different than taking out of Soleimani.
Dave, that all was CIA propaganda ,that the people were dying to have western freedom and wanted to be liberated by Israel/America. They have been galvanized as a people like never before. Even the most liberal elements are fully behind the government now. Our government always makes this claim about every war we start in order to make it more palatable to the American people but it’s always a lie. When attacked, countries tend to develop more cohesion and determination. BTW, re taking out Soleimani, are political assassinations now the new norm for American foreign policy? In 1953 we got rid of a democratically elected, western oriented president (Mossediq) because he nationalized Iran’s oil. We and the Brits cooperated to regain the oil profits. We installed the Shah and his family who ruled brutally through his secret police, SAVAK. The people hated him. Don’t you remember? I went to college with young Iranians who wanted to overthrow him and go in a religiously conservative direction. So in come the mullahs. But much is changing, women are free to skip the veil now if they choose and they are fully integrated into the educational and tech sectors. We will not prevail against the Persians. They are a proud, ancient people who know how to endure suffering. I hope we survive what’s coming.
Yes and other countries have longer memories than Americans. I don't know if trump lied to the leaders in the middle east on his peace tour or if he lied to the American people that it was a peace tour, but either way, it's not good. The Republicans lie and the Democrats have gone insane and we are all complicit because we fell for it.
Trump is a toxic narcissist who lies to everyone, including himself
EXACTLY! Couldn't have said it better myself. I read your comment to my 32 year army infantry veteran who deployed 3 times to Iraq, and he's in complete agreement with you. People don't understand military strategy. Trump wants peace through strength and sometimes this is the way it has to be done. The US and the world are safer now. The deep state is being obliterated. 🇺🇲
Lock Her Up (2016) - Nobody Gone To Jail Yet
"On the contrary, he is putting an end to the deep state regime in Iran that has been an enemy of the US for decades, the regime supported by Obama and Biden and the globalists who want the US to be involved in war."
Because regime change has worked out so very well for the US in the past?
Oh wait, it's like Communism right? We just haven't done "regime change" correctly in the past, have we?
This is Israel's business, not that of the US. They are not a territory of the US or a state. If they could not do it without bunker busters and certain planes, they should have built them themselves. Not rely on a third party.
Exactly
JFC
Okay boomer.
Deep state regime, american hubris, nuclear weapons - you've got the talking points down.
I said this would show what Trump is made of and now we know. So disappointed!
This is demonic .
Lol 🙄🤦♀️
Who cares about Israel! That’s all their problem
Israel is sucking the U.S. dry. So, it’s become your problem, whether you like it, or acknowledge it.
Isntreal is so reliant on the US that when the US fails, it will fail. Parasite kills the host
lol
Obama didn't have congressional approval on the various military misadventures during his tenure-did he?
And many roads continue to lead back to Obama, who was nothing more than a CIA Manchurian Candidate.
Ain't that the painful truth. When some people realize that his aunt is A. Merkel, will they lose their minds? Illusions die hard.
I wonder who the first US sacrificial lamb to die in support of Israel will be? Does that person even know that they have been chosen to die on behalf of Israel, even though they are American.
Seems to me that the USS Nimitz is going to be "sunk" by "Iran" to "make the US get more involved."
*Iran won't be the one doing the sinking*
cough false flag cough
It's a big club and we aren't in it
Thanks G. Carlin - Much missed, on Social Reality comments.
Wellness and Unity. John D - from OZtopia
Our many troops in the area are just sitting ducks.
Do we in fact have good intel from the ground that these bombings actually occurred and occurred where they were said to have occurred and if so what if any REAL damage they actually did?
No but I did watch an analysis of these MOPs on YT and there's no evidence they work as the diagrams show
What a great deceiver he has been. What an evil deception.
Trump will have to look God in the face sooner or later.
I don't think it will end well for him.
I don’t believe that Iran had the upper hand and Iron Dome was depleted. Give me an effing break! This smacks of Hamas riding motorized lawnmowers to breach the most securely fortified border in the world on 10/7/23. Netanyahu’s a faker - his wife says he even fakes his organisms. What a putz!
1. Israel strikes Iran with no solid evidence
2. Iran strikes back
3. Israel gets hit and calls on the US to bail them out
4. US does the dirty work for Israel
Works out well for Bibi now doesn't it? I guess Musk was right and Trump was on the Epstein list.
Failing At Foreign Policy
No Epstein Honey Trap Blackmail Sex Scandal Arrests - Ensnaring The World's Politicians.
No JFK/RFK/MLK Assassination Arrests - Last Anti-War Group.
No Audit Of Pentagon MIC - Trillions Missing
No Audit Of FED - Trillions In Bailouts For Too Big To Fail/Jail Corporations & Banksters.
No Audit Of Ft Knox Gold - Going For The 'Black' Gold (Oil) In Middle East - Because There Is No Gold In Ft Knox.
Lock Her Up (2016) - Nobody Gone To Jail Yet
Iran was losing because Israel took out most of their capabilities which ALLOWED us to go in the way we did. They have nothing to strike back with.
You do 'know' that Iran (The NON aggressor here), HAS 'Trade Deals' with those other Newby 'Axis of Evil'(surprised the NEO-CONs haven't 'Re-Used this worn out reference - LOL), Russia and China! Does one think that Iran, IS, somehow - On the Ropes? The Western GRUNTS leadership, Could Learn more from the Constituant Ex Persian Empire Semitic states - Operational BEFORE the Romans 'Rocked into town'! So they are NOT some Amateurs, to be meddled with! NOR, sending in some Trashy Knights from Ye Olde England's romantic notion of Crusaders'R'us! And the Ex Persian nations, Ain't just utilising 'Camels Only' in the Modern era! They are also doing things at their own pace - Which IS their OWN right, as a Sovereign Nation. Something, the West somehow 'Feels' is the Wests 'Right to Meddle'. = We, are STILL - Grunts & OverRegulated (Repression Class system of CONtrol)> Residual English models. - And I do not see it's apparent Social Fortes, tangibly panning out in front of me.
last; Let's get the IAEA weapons inspectors, to PROPERLY inspect ALL of Israel's Arsenals (Including ANY Battlefield Tactical Nukes) & 'Civil' Nuclear Facilities. Chances of?
John D - OZtopia
Just for a perspective, Obama bombed Libya without War Powers issues being raised!
Read my last article please were I mention Obama in passing.
I may disagree with you, but I am very and extremely impressed with you taking the time to send this detailed reply.
How on earth could anyone support Trump bombing Iran? For God’s sake- both sides were at the negotiating table, the negotiations had not nearly completed before America bombs Iran??!!!! WTF. Can’t say I’m surprised though.
And down goes the empire
This isn’t a ‘war’. Cdn in London, UK. Unless women/men desire USA resemble this city. Why only women forced to wear religious garb? Sharia law abounds - Look it up. Horrid for females. Trying to establish it in NY USA. Big Picture - unless Christian/Jewish/Hindu etc stop this worse than Dark Ages Barbarianism from proliferating and continue killing us all with terrorism, God forbid nucs, the Western way of life is doomed. Not about ‘countries’ anymore. It’s not just a USA problem, it’s all our problem. These sorts of issues have been around since the dawn of man. Please travel to a Muslim country and read some history prior to unintelligent replies A strong man made a strong decision. Thank God.