Considering the recent revelations that Obama, Clinton and others set in motion a hyper adversarial Russia hoax against Trump, who is now sitting across the negotiating table, and which is unwinding as we speak, coupled with Putin’s interest in becoming a more westernized member of the EU, it is very possible, and even likely, Russia comes out of this as a big winner , with sanctions removed and with greater alliances to the United States and the EU. Zalensky becomes the big loser, defunded of military equipment and forced to make concessions all around.
I TOTALLY agree with you! I've watched Russia all my life and I'm 70 y.o. I was in Russia in 1977 when it was still the USSR and spent a month there - much of it in Moscow hospital when I had to have my appendix removed there. While there, I learned a great deal from the Russians. I also was in Ukraine that same trip and learned that Nazis left Ukraine at end of war but came back in 1950s and were still there until recently. They have mostly if not completely been removed finally. Putin seems to be pretty stable and wants the best for his people. I've watched many videos of him at ceremonies and gatherings and I can tell the Russian people have great love and respect for him. For one thing, they are very strong Christians. All churches were closed in Russia by the communists for 75 yrs, Putin opened them back up and also built 20,000 new churches. He's also created a far better economy than Russian people ever had. I'm willing to bet that at this point, most if not all Ukrainians are wanting to join Russia - which they were a part of for 400 yrs. I think they would be very happy to be rid of Zelensky and under Putin's protection and I do think Putin will respect Ukrainian people's wishes and protect Ukraine.
Ukraine has suffered HORRIBLY for at least 100 yrs, it's time they got to live as free people and had safety in their country. Zelensky needs to be arrested for crimes against humanity, he's an evil little weasel who has stolen tons of money from U.S. and probably numerous other entities - public hanging IMO would be too good for him.
most if not all Ukrainians are wanting to join Russia - which they were a part of for 400 yrs.
I think that line says it all. In addition, the Nazis promised Ukraine independence from Soviet Russia during WWII. So the Ukrainians acted as the handmaidens to the SS, and bear responsibility for many of the massacres, including Babi Yar.
Zelensky has portrayed himself as an absolute a$$ in this war. I am glad he is being left out of the Putin/Trump meeting. Zelensky would offer up every last one of his countrymen to die without a second thought. I hope Both Putin and Trump can enact an arrangement (Zelensky would never agree to anything, but alone he is weak). People need to research recent history to find the truth of this war instead of listening to the baby fed propaganda.
Zelensky has told old people, grandmothers and grandfathers and everyone else in Ukraine to sign up and go fight the war. He's insane. He doesn't have a working military any more, most able-bodied people were killed in the war in last few years. Anyone else left who is able-bodied has had more than enough of war. I'm guessing they would be very happy to join up with Russia, they were part of Russia for 400 yrs.
Putin holds all the cards and will dictate the terms. He will work with Trump to somehow put lipstick on this pig so that Trump won't look like the loser, because that would help Russia's own agenda. Putin actually thinks Russia First! This war has cost the US and the EU the most. Russia's economy is in better shape than ours or anyone in the EU, despite the sanctions.Their military has grown since the war started and is now maybe the largest and most powerful in the world in terms of manpower, and most of the troops have 3 years of combat experience that will crush anyone else's military right now. They have the industrial capacity now to keep building weapons and ammunition, which we also don't have and neither does the EU. Our stockpile of missiles is virtually gone right now and will take years to rebuild. Not even taking into account the fact that we depend on China for critical electronic parts for our missiles.
The parts coming out of China is the reason so many of our armaments do not work. I mean how dumb is that to buy the processors and other parts for the missiles from a communist adversary!?
Many seem to think that if NATO/ US go after Russia, well, China will be the next target. So China has decided to side with Russia. I think India has as well.
If it's a war between NATO/ US against Russia/China/ India, it might not turn out well for the west.
He played a piano w/ his dick & pranced around in stilettos, crop top & plethor pants. Not concerned he’s not part of the negotiations. And if he won some initial national election, he has banned them since
For what it's worth, economist Martin Armstrong —a very controversial figure for some —has a computer program that's somewhat reliable. The program says we're going into a world war. It's tagged 2026 as a panic cycle and predicts *something* happening around August 18th. The reason behind all of this is the financial system in Western Europe-- they need a war to cover up their financial misdeeds, and to keep the proles from going after them with torches and pitchforks. In the US, Armstrong claims we're in the same situation, but not quite as bad as Europe. War covers up these problems.
One outcome that has not been discussed is Trump walking away from NATO and Ukraine completely. Let Europe figure it out.
When Catherine the Great ruled Russia she bought and paid for Ukraine. Zelinski never had anything to give up. This is covered in the Tucker Carlson Interview with Putin. If I paid for some land of anything for that matter I would fight for it. Just some food for thought. I apologize if I am missing something.
The trumper has been in a bad place from the beginning being that he is Pissrael-first all of the way. Well, the regime running Ukrainium are the same khazarian zionazis running pissrael. Whatever trumper does is going to piss that bunch off. He just doesn’t have the balls to actually practice America first. The main reason we were even dragged into that conflict is due to how the global gov khazarians hate Russia. They have had a grudge against Russia for around 1600 years. The other reason is because the Ukrainium is the primary hub for child trafficking.
The other story is the Europe and the Neocons in the US want Russia's natural resources. Plus... Ukraine has a lot of rare earth minerals that everyone wants that are located in areas that are currently under Russian control.
This article twists the facts to sensationalize a summit for which there evidence in the small print that it will be no more than another psyop. No, Putin did not propose to "stop the war", he proposed an agreement to a cease fire in exchange for a pull back of Ukrainian forces from the front line (which the present US deep state proxy regime in Kiev is unlikely to accept). In any case, the agreement is temporary, dependent on future negotiations to resolve all the important issues in the war, which the summit proposals deliberately avoid.
Trump should be talking with Putin about a land bridge from Alaska to Siberia opening up trade routes and normalizing relations if Putin will accept mostly giving up Ukraine gains.
Who cares about grifting tyrant & phony “President” - he has been cancelling elections for years now. He’s not legitimate
Zelensky was installed by the Obama regime. Not by elections. So he has been illegitimate the entire time.
Zelensky won a national Ukraine election running as a peace candidate. That election had the appearance of being legit.
As legit as you are .
LOL not even close.
Had to get numbers like this by cheating (link), he promised peace, Ukraine wanted peace. He lied.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48007487
Indeed...as Putin has said before Ze's signature carries no legitimacy...
Considering the recent revelations that Obama, Clinton and others set in motion a hyper adversarial Russia hoax against Trump, who is now sitting across the negotiating table, and which is unwinding as we speak, coupled with Putin’s interest in becoming a more westernized member of the EU, it is very possible, and even likely, Russia comes out of this as a big winner , with sanctions removed and with greater alliances to the United States and the EU. Zalensky becomes the big loser, defunded of military equipment and forced to make concessions all around.
I TOTALLY agree with you! I've watched Russia all my life and I'm 70 y.o. I was in Russia in 1977 when it was still the USSR and spent a month there - much of it in Moscow hospital when I had to have my appendix removed there. While there, I learned a great deal from the Russians. I also was in Ukraine that same trip and learned that Nazis left Ukraine at end of war but came back in 1950s and were still there until recently. They have mostly if not completely been removed finally. Putin seems to be pretty stable and wants the best for his people. I've watched many videos of him at ceremonies and gatherings and I can tell the Russian people have great love and respect for him. For one thing, they are very strong Christians. All churches were closed in Russia by the communists for 75 yrs, Putin opened them back up and also built 20,000 new churches. He's also created a far better economy than Russian people ever had. I'm willing to bet that at this point, most if not all Ukrainians are wanting to join Russia - which they were a part of for 400 yrs. I think they would be very happy to be rid of Zelensky and under Putin's protection and I do think Putin will respect Ukrainian people's wishes and protect Ukraine.
Ukraine has suffered HORRIBLY for at least 100 yrs, it's time they got to live as free people and had safety in their country. Zelensky needs to be arrested for crimes against humanity, he's an evil little weasel who has stolen tons of money from U.S. and probably numerous other entities - public hanging IMO would be too good for him.
most if not all Ukrainians are wanting to join Russia - which they were a part of for 400 yrs.
I think that line says it all. In addition, the Nazis promised Ukraine independence from Soviet Russia during WWII. So the Ukrainians acted as the handmaidens to the SS, and bear responsibility for many of the massacres, including Babi Yar.
Zelensky could go back to being a standup comedian…
Zelensky has portrayed himself as an absolute a$$ in this war. I am glad he is being left out of the Putin/Trump meeting. Zelensky would offer up every last one of his countrymen to die without a second thought. I hope Both Putin and Trump can enact an arrangement (Zelensky would never agree to anything, but alone he is weak). People need to research recent history to find the truth of this war instead of listening to the baby fed propaganda.
Agreed! Also:
"Zelensky would offer up every last one of his countrymen to die without a second thought."
He's already been doing that, LOTS of able-bodied young men and women have died in that useless war, their numbers have been greatly decimated.
The USA DEEP STATE milindustrial complex started the war so they must end it.
If Russia doesn't take all of the former Ukraine militarily the war will simply restart in a couple of years.
Zelensky has told old people, grandmothers and grandfathers and everyone else in Ukraine to sign up and go fight the war. He's insane. He doesn't have a working military any more, most able-bodied people were killed in the war in last few years. Anyone else left who is able-bodied has had more than enough of war. I'm guessing they would be very happy to join up with Russia, they were part of Russia for 400 yrs.
Putin holds all the cards and will dictate the terms. He will work with Trump to somehow put lipstick on this pig so that Trump won't look like the loser, because that would help Russia's own agenda. Putin actually thinks Russia First! This war has cost the US and the EU the most. Russia's economy is in better shape than ours or anyone in the EU, despite the sanctions.Their military has grown since the war started and is now maybe the largest and most powerful in the world in terms of manpower, and most of the troops have 3 years of combat experience that will crush anyone else's military right now. They have the industrial capacity now to keep building weapons and ammunition, which we also don't have and neither does the EU. Our stockpile of missiles is virtually gone right now and will take years to rebuild. Not even taking into account the fact that we depend on China for critical electronic parts for our missiles.
The parts coming out of China is the reason so many of our armaments do not work. I mean how dumb is that to buy the processors and other parts for the missiles from a communist adversary!?
lol, yah it's those darn communists that are the reason the western world is in dire straights.
Uuumm......I suggest taking a hard look at the MIC, corporate greed and a government that cannot manage its money as the culprits.
Many seem to think that if NATO/ US go after Russia, well, China will be the next target. So China has decided to side with Russia. I think India has as well.
If it's a war between NATO/ US against Russia/China/ India, it might not turn out well for the west.
He played a piano w/ his dick & pranced around in stilettos, crop top & plethor pants. Not concerned he’s not part of the negotiations. And if he won some initial national election, he has banned them since
Well, he is literally a performing artist, an actor. He's fronting for his mentor, Igor Kolomoisky and other NAZI puppet masters.
It's all theater, all the time.
For what it's worth, economist Martin Armstrong —a very controversial figure for some —has a computer program that's somewhat reliable. The program says we're going into a world war. It's tagged 2026 as a panic cycle and predicts *something* happening around August 18th. The reason behind all of this is the financial system in Western Europe-- they need a war to cover up their financial misdeeds, and to keep the proles from going after them with torches and pitchforks. In the US, Armstrong claims we're in the same situation, but not quite as bad as Europe. War covers up these problems.
One outcome that has not been discussed is Trump walking away from NATO and Ukraine completely. Let Europe figure it out.
When Catherine the Great ruled Russia she bought and paid for Ukraine. Zelinski never had anything to give up. This is covered in the Tucker Carlson Interview with Putin. If I paid for some land of anything for that matter I would fight for it. Just some food for thought. I apologize if I am missing something.
Ukraine as a country is illegitimate because it was never registered when it attained nationhood. Ironic. So goes the leader, so goes the country.
“the NWO globopedo gigolo z-grade thespian puppet Zelensky”.
Very artistically clever.
" globopedo"
I believe the correct term is 'globohomopedopsycho."
Sorry, but I like Putin. I’m glad he’s still in power, whichever way he stays in office.
The trumper has been in a bad place from the beginning being that he is Pissrael-first all of the way. Well, the regime running Ukrainium are the same khazarian zionazis running pissrael. Whatever trumper does is going to piss that bunch off. He just doesn’t have the balls to actually practice America first. The main reason we were even dragged into that conflict is due to how the global gov khazarians hate Russia. They have had a grudge against Russia for around 1600 years. The other reason is because the Ukrainium is the primary hub for child trafficking.
The other story is the Europe and the Neocons in the US want Russia's natural resources. Plus... Ukraine has a lot of rare earth minerals that everyone wants that are located in areas that are currently under Russian control.
Plus.... "Ukraine biolabs."
This article twists the facts to sensationalize a summit for which there evidence in the small print that it will be no more than another psyop. No, Putin did not propose to "stop the war", he proposed an agreement to a cease fire in exchange for a pull back of Ukrainian forces from the front line (which the present US deep state proxy regime in Kiev is unlikely to accept). In any case, the agreement is temporary, dependent on future negotiations to resolve all the important issues in the war, which the summit proposals deliberately avoid.
I agree
This one emits the stench of a sort of Munich Accords or even a Molotov-Ribbontrop pact.
Trump should be talking with Putin about a land bridge from Alaska to Siberia opening up trade routes and normalizing relations if Putin will accept mostly giving up Ukraine gains.